Alaska buying Hawaiian airlines.
08-20-2024, 06:56 AM
#1341
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I think by close of business Thursday we are considered official owned and operated by Alaskan Airlines. If I rememeber it was 3 days after DOJ approval (or lack of being contested).
Hopefully the waste cutting is swift. Way too many people at our HQ making way too much money to do a poor job.
Curious, will Alaska still want to continue with PF/PM on the 330/321? Or did HA just waste millions (as usual) with something that isn't going to happen?
Hopefully the waste cutting is swift. Way too many people at our HQ making way too much money to do a poor job.
Curious, will Alaska still want to continue with PF/PM on the 330/321? Or did HA just waste millions (as usual) with something that isn't going to happen?
08-20-2024, 07:13 AM
#1342
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I would argue HA pilots have the most to lose! Isn’t the internet fun?
HA has been around for 95 years and won’t be going away if the merger falls apart. HA pilots have the expectation to spend their entire career flying a widebody, not a 737 to Spokane or Sitka.
Regardless, unity in getting an industry leading
JCBA is more important than arguing over who is gonna get hosed more at this point.
HA has been around for 95 years and won’t be going away if the merger falls apart. HA pilots have the expectation to spend their entire career flying a widebody, not a 737 to Spokane or Sitka.
Regardless, unity in getting an industry leading
JCBA is more important than arguing over who is gonna get hosed more at this point.
08-20-2024, 07:49 AM
#1343
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Thats funny, none of that sounds worse than starting over at the bottom of a seniority list at a new company. At -$70m a quarter in the middle of the summer it doesn't sound like a career of wide body flying was in the cards for much longer. 95 years huh? AS also. Thats cool straight DOH sounds fair then to me, call your rep I'll call mine and let them know. Yah Yah unity for a JCBA.....I'm sure we will have tons of leverage combining two overstaffed pilot groups and 65 airplanes that hemmorage money like its a bodily function.
08-20-2024, 08:10 AM
#1346
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Whats the weight of the career expectation of flying for a thriving profitable company? Actually never mind we already know from the last one. Not much.
08-20-2024, 08:45 AM
#1347
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IIRC the Deregulation Act specifically removed a lot of .gov's ability to nit pick air carrier structure and operations (except the safety part).
DOJ considered the anti-trust aspect, which is addressed by unrelated federal law. With that hurdle cleared, the law is on the side of the airlines now.
DOJ considered the anti-trust aspect, which is addressed by unrelated federal law. With that hurdle cleared, the law is on the side of the airlines now.
08-20-2024, 08:54 AM
#1348
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Then just staple us with that attitude. It’s a wild industry. Spirit is on the brink when they were the most profitable in the biz less than a decade ago. There are limits to your logic. I see where your mind is at when we are years away from caring about this sort of thing.
08-20-2024, 09:17 AM
#1349
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As a SWA guy who had a ringside seat for our shotgun marriage with AirTran, I'd suggest not even checking in on this forum again until about 6 months after the SLI is announced. It is going to get ugly...happens every time. People are going to say a lot of things that they probably would like to walk back later. Your mental health and overall outlook on life will be a whole lot better if you just leave this place to the trolls and let your union be the attack dog for you.
P.S. Congrats on the DOJ ruling!
P.S. Congrats on the DOJ ruling!
08-20-2024, 09:23 AM
#1350
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As a SWA guy who had a ringside seat for our shotgun marriage with AirTran, I'd suggest not even checking in on this forum again until about 6 months after the SLI is announced. It is going to get ugly...happens every time. People are going to say a lot of things that they probably would like to walk back later. Your mental health and overall outlook on life will be a whole lot better if you just leave this place to the trolls and let your union be the attack dog for you.
P.S. Congrats on the DOJ ruling!
P.S. Congrats on the DOJ ruling!
I always thought ALPA SLI's should be done "baseball style" where both MEC's submit what they think is the fairest and the arbitrator is forced to just pick one or the other. It makes both sides be extremely reasonable and logical to save from disappointment.
BTW, a strong JOINT NEW PWA goes a long way in ameliorating the pilot group and it's new found divisions if the company is at all concerned.
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