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Old 08-18-2024, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That's a function largely of widebody flying, not unique to HAL.

You can do 2-3 day out and backs on NB's but with relatievly shorter legs the credit doesn't get as high as long haul.
The difference is at HAL 100% of our widebody (and 321) flying is out and back 1-leg a day trips. Most widebody flying at the other legacies has a large percentage of multi-day W patterns. At HAL you can credit 80-85 hours in 12 days of work and only sleep in a hotel 6-8 nights.
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Old 08-18-2024, 10:55 AM
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Latest rumor was the DOJ was planning on blocking last week. Alaska asked for an extension to try and work things out. I guess we’ll know more tomorrow.
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Old 08-18-2024, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cholla6918
Latest rumor was the DOJ was planning on blocking last week. Alaska asked for an extension to try and work things out. I guess we’ll know more tomorrow.
Didn’t hear that one, unless you mean seeking alpha and their buddies at CTFN quoting each other and trying to short the stock.
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Old 08-18-2024, 11:52 AM
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Didn’t hear that one, unless you mean seeking alpha and their buddies at CTFN quoting each other and trying to short the stock.
Nope, just rumors from pilots…so take it for what it’s worth…
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Old 08-18-2024, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Cholla6918
Nope, just rumors from pilots…so take it for what it’s worth…
If you heard it from pilots, they heard it from Seeking Alpha, because I haven't seen it anywhere else.
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Old 08-18-2024, 12:14 PM
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If you heard it from pilots, they heard it from Seeking Alpha, because I haven't seen it anywhere else.
We have this little thing called coconut wireless in the islands. There is no such thing as a secret in Hawaii…sometimes it’s good intel and others not so much…
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Old 08-18-2024, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Akamai
The difference is at HAL 100% of our widebody (and 321) flying is out and back 1-leg a day trips. Most widebody flying at the other legacies has a large percentage of multi-day W patterns. At HAL you can credit 80-85 hours in 12 days of work and only sleep in a hotel 6-8 nights.
Gotta be pretty senior for that. I’d say top 30% of either seat. Every other airline gets more credit for days worked.
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Originally Posted by Cholla6918
We have this little thing called coconut wireless in the islands. There is no such thing as a secret in Hawaii…sometimes it’s good intel and others not so much…

I’ve heard a hard no, but suddenly Alaska management came alive at the end. Who knows if real progress is made and parties are willing to compromise.
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Old 08-18-2024, 02:05 PM
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If it was a hard no, there wouldn't be an extension. Let's apply some common sense to the rumors...

They could still block it, but if they were a hard no, there is no reason to any of the extensions, the DOJ could simply say no and save all this mess.
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Originally Posted by MinRest
If it was a hard no, there wouldn't be an extension. Let's apply some common sense to the rumors...

They could still block it, but if they were a hard no, there is no reason to any of the extensions, the DOJ could simply say no and save all this mess.
Well all speculation, but Alaska could have caved after previously balking out the compromise demands by the DOJ. I do believe progress is being made at present it’s looking good. But I think it being blocked was real likelyhood going into last week.
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