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Old 08-12-2024, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by conquestdz
We are mis staffed rather than overstaffed. They are choosing low line values which means more line holders and less reserves. Line holders as a group want more credit but can't get it while reserves are burning out and tapping out from a summer of nothing but back to back red eyes. Crew planning is stubbornly sticking to a model that they think is cheaper. I don't count the beans, but given all of the emails complaining about too many cancellations and how much they cost coupled with all of last minute premium open time, it leads me to believe that the company is shooting their own foot when choosing ALV which controls reserve levels.
This has been my experience on reserve at AAG, both at QX and at mainline. Its an open secret that AAG runs resevers hard, and crew scheduling's marching orders are all filtered through the lens of "a reserve pilot not getting used is money wasted" despite how flawed that thinking is from a schedule and logistical resilency standpoint. Until it hurts in the pocket book and until "line go down and management and stockholders have a sad" over it, I don't expect anything to change until the JCBA if the merger goes through.

QOL as a junior anything on reserve at SEA is pretty unpleasant and implementing PBS and the new reserve system at the same time was not a good idea. PBS and the new reserve system were both sorely needed, and there have been some solid improvements in actually getting specific days off that I wanted, but I went from comfortably 40-60 block in a month to over guarantee every month since. Overall its been a wash, but if things don't improve, I think the junior ranks are going to start souring on the new reserve system quickly if there isn't a dramatic change after the summer season and we get some sort of break before winter holiday travel.
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Old 08-12-2024, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
I’m not sure why that’s a difficult concept to understand.
Because it is simply incorrect. We cannot be overstaffed while spreading flying over more pilots via lower ALV and STILL have a real problem properly crewing flights.
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Old 08-12-2024, 02:57 PM
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Because it is simply incorrect. We cannot be overstaffed while spreading flying over more pilots via lower ALV and STILL have a real problem properly crewing flights.
Are we having trouble crewing flights? Just because they’re offering premium doesn’t mean there’s a problem. I’m sure they’ve figured out an exact matrix of how many reserves they want vs how much premium they’re willing to offer. Reserves in every base other than Seattle still aren’t flying that much so it appears to be working.
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Old 08-12-2024, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
Are we having trouble crewing flights? Just because they’re offering premium doesn’t mean there’s a problem. I’m sure they’ve figured out an exact matrix of how many reserves they want vs how much premium they’re willing to offer. Reserves in every base other than Seattle still aren’t flying that much so it appears to be working.
And SFO FO as already stated. One new hire class could alleviate the pain. Yet they won’t do it. Reserve in sfo as a junior guy I’ve been told has not been great this summer.
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Old 08-12-2024, 04:46 PM
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And SFO FO as already stated. One new hire class could alleviate the pain. Yet they won’t do it. Reserve in sfo as a junior guy I’ve been told has not been great this summer.
They're not doing it because we alreaady have too many pilots for the planes we have on property. The fiscally responsible thing to do would be to hold a displacement bid, but I'm sure most of us are glad they aren't pulling that lever. I doubt they will ever be able to staff the right seat in SFO at the level they want unless things start moving again and there's a churn of newhires. One class ain't gonna cut it because people would leave at first chance or bid out as soon as they are able.
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Old 08-12-2024, 07:44 PM
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They're not doing it because we alreaady have too many pilots for the planes we have on property. The fiscally responsible thing to do would be to hold a displacement bid, but I'm sure most of us are glad they aren't pulling that lever. I doubt they will ever be able to staff the right seat in SFO at the level they want unless things start moving again and there's a churn of newhires. One class ain't gonna cut it because people would leave at first chance or bid out as soon as they are able.
It would cut it for the rest of the year maybe more. Our attrition has been dismal this year.
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Old 08-12-2024, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
One class ain't gonna cut it because people would leave at first chance or bid out as soon as they are able.
This is the wrong reaction to attrition. The last 24 months have been the craziest in hiring at all levels since deregulation. It won't be like that again.

At the beginning of the wave, management thought they could outhire attrition. They were wrong. Now, they'd be correct.
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Old 08-12-2024, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ReluctantEskimo
This is the wrong reaction to attrition. The last 24 months have been the craziest in hiring at all levels since deregulation. It won't be like that again.

At the beginning of the wave, management thought they could outhire attrition. They were wrong. Now, they'd be correct.
Well when you’re dooming new hires to an eternal death in SFO I don’t know why they’d stay. I wouldn’t.
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Old 08-12-2024, 08:59 PM
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Well when you’re dooming new hires to an eternal death in SFO I don’t know why they’d stay. I wouldn’t.
can’t they go to LAX or SEA in a year? SFO on the surface seems better than the NorthEast.
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Old 08-12-2024, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
Well when you’re dooming new hires to an eternal death in SFO I don’t know why they’d stay. I wouldn’t.
Idk ask them why they’re staying. But the base isn’t losing pilots in droves right now like you are insinuating.

There are however plenty of people planning on moving to our other bases but can’t until another position bid.

The base has been understaffed by about 30 or so pilots for a while, no more no less that number hasn’t been changing. One new hire class would have solved that problem and adequately staffed the base.

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