Alaska buying Hawaiian airlines.
07-31-2024, 11:28 AM
#1121
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I hear that, but you are also effectively doubling the growth plan. I don't see why this as buying Hawaiian being the growth. Hawaiian has a growth plan and so does Alaska. Alaska is in complete and total stagnation right now, where as Hawiian is running bids. I think 737 deliveries are a large problem right now but with the shortage being effectively over, AS is going back to it's typical growth of darn near next to nothing, if anyting at all, for the foreseeable future but adding an airline that also has growth plans at least doubles our potential for growth. We all know the AS "tightening of the ship" that will happen but I don't see how this will somehow be devastating to any AS pilot.
It almost feels like we are assuming Hawaiian is going to push every AS pilot out of their seat and base and while there will be some changes I am sure, I just don't see things really changing drastically.
It almost feels like we are assuming Hawaiian is going to push every AS pilot out of their seat and base and while there will be some changes I am sure, I just don't see things really changing drastically.
I don’t think HA had any major growth plans for the near future either per there meeting yesterday.
I could be wrong though.
07-31-2024, 11:30 AM
#1122
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Buying another airline that is 15/20% over staffed on pilots isn’t growth for us though. How does that help seniority progression for anyone on our list currently ?
I don’t think HA had any major growth plans for the near future either per there meeting yesterday.
I could be wrong though.
I don’t think HA had any major growth plans for the near future either per there meeting yesterday.
I could be wrong though.
07-31-2024, 11:33 AM
#1123
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Excuse me 14% per there earnings call yesterday.
My point remains
https://www.aol.com/hawaiian-q2-2024...ME-IaJz3VFnevI
My point remains
https://www.aol.com/hawaiian-q2-2024...ME-IaJz3VFnevI
07-31-2024, 12:15 PM
#1127
Mmmm wine
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Excuse me 14% per there earnings call yesterday.
My point remains
https://www.aol.com/hawaiian-q2-2024...ME-IaJz3VFnevI
My point remains
https://www.aol.com/hawaiian-q2-2024...ME-IaJz3VFnevI
07-31-2024, 01:04 PM
#1129
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VX SLI took aboput 2.5 years, from acquisition announcement date.
All indications hint that AS intends to wrap this up on a very aggressive timetable, if approved. They want to start realizing synergistic returns from the new business paradigm asap, blah, blah, blah.
I've heard JCBA in less than one year, then SLI to follow. JCBA timeline is of course up to the company... they could have a JCBA in a week if they want it bad enough.
All indications hint that AS intends to wrap this up on a very aggressive timetable, if approved. They want to start realizing synergistic returns from the new business paradigm asap, blah, blah, blah.
I've heard JCBA in less than one year, then SLI to follow. JCBA timeline is of course up to the company... they could have a JCBA in a week if they want it bad enough.
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