Alaska buying Hawaiian airlines.
06-18-2024, 10:55 AM
#1001
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Joined APC: May 2023
Posts: 698
It's self fulfilling. Uncertainty about SFO. Can't keep people in SF. Can't recruit people. More uncertainty.
Downward spiral created by the airline itself.
06-18-2024, 10:59 AM
#1002
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2019
Position: Captain
Posts: 326
There have been 3 other times in the last 8 years when AS has considered closing SFO. You’re a moron if you think that this is not true. Flight Ops sent out a message confirming this fact, stating they needed time to make the right decision for all parties. CLOSING SFO IS DEFINITELY ON THE TABLE ONCE AGAIN!
And I ain’t getting my info from some dumb LCA… remember the last LCA quoted on here when asked about 787🤔😉😂 Who did he say you needed to stop listening too…
And I ain’t getting my info from some dumb LCA… remember the last LCA quoted on here when asked about 787🤔😉😂 Who did he say you needed to stop listening too…
so Alaska had a sfo base in 2016?
06-18-2024, 11:00 AM
#1003
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Joined APC: May 2023
Posts: 698
There have been 3 other times in the last 8 years when AS has considered closing SFO. You’re a moron if you think that this is not true. Flight Ops sent out a message confirming this fact, stating they needed time to make the right decision for all parties. CLOSING SFO IS DEFINITELY ON THE TABLE ONCE AGAIN!
And I ain’t getting my info from some dumb LCA… remember the last LCA quoted on here when asked about 787🤔😉😂
And I ain’t getting my info from some dumb LCA… remember the last LCA quoted on here when asked about 787🤔😉😂
You've only had one job your entire life. Flying frozen fish in a 737. Your airline experience is actually very limited.
You don't realize the disruption a base closure would cause or the exodus it would create.
They won't even displace because of the aftershocks, but they'll close a base?
This has to be a troll. You got me. Well done.
06-18-2024, 11:03 AM
#1004
Mmmm wine
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Position: The Jet
Posts: 1,070
There have been 3 other times in the last 8 years when AS has considered closing SFO. You’re a moron if you think that this is not true. Flight Ops sent out a message confirming this fact, stating they needed time to make the right decision for all parties. CLOSING SFO IS DEFINITELY ON THE TABLE ONCE AGAIN!
And I ain’t getting my info from some dumb LCA… remember the last LCA quoted on here when asked about 787🤔😉😂 Who did he say you needed to stop listening too…
And I ain’t getting my info from some dumb LCA… remember the last LCA quoted on here when asked about 787🤔😉😂 Who did he say you needed to stop listening too…
There will always be junior bases and there will always be issues staffing those bases. Hell United has SFO vacancies in BOTH seats. Every airline has a junior base and every airline constantly shuffles to staff them. I love pilots act so shocked that a junior base is hard to staff...
06-18-2024, 11:14 AM
#1006
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Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 1,160
Dude ****. Stop posting this garbage whether talks are there or not. You are wrong more than you are right and all you do is post crap to get the pilot group spun up. We JUST moved into terminal one with a village and a separate pilot room and a brand new lounge. Yep lets spend millions of dollars in SFO just to close it because getting 25 FOs in SFO is semi hard...
There will always be junior bases and there will always be issues staffing those bases. Hell United has SFO vacancies in BOTH seats. Every airline has a junior base and every airline constantly shuffles to staff them. I love pilots act so shocked that a junior base is hard to staff...
There will always be junior bases and there will always be issues staffing those bases. Hell United has SFO vacancies in BOTH seats. Every airline has a junior base and every airline constantly shuffles to staff them. I love pilots act so shocked that a junior base is hard to staff...
06-18-2024, 11:39 AM
#1007
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Joined APC: Mar 2022
Posts: 681
Really you believe this crap… LCA, oh my really, tell me more. All of that is absolute garbage. I have heard talk of FO TDY in SFO. I was asked about my thoughts on a SFO fix in early June. I told him, I would close the base and shift the flying to SEA, LAX, and PDX… at first I got a funny look, I got a text a few days latter, planning is now crunching numbers on the idea. I think 60/40 chance SFO could close 2/1/25… That is not a joke, that is not garbage!
What you're saying is lunacy. You're not only saying that the MGMT is seeking you out for your sage wisdom but now you, OTZegle1 is making recommendations to close bases and the company is running numbers on base closures?
Mmmmmmmmm OK.
06-18-2024, 11:44 AM
#1008
Mmmm wine
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Position: The Jet
Posts: 1,070
Quick fixes don't fix anything. We actually do really well out of the Bay Area, and LAX is like 2x-3x more expensive to do anything at over SFO, and SEA is beyond capacity. Closing SFO would be lunacy. The after-effects of doing so are much larger than needing some slots to fill in base. We just solidified a commitment to the Bay Area with the efforts in SFO. We give up everything because there is churn in SFO? When the flood gates open, attrition picks up and those pilots are typically junior with a lack of skin in the game. That just so happens to land on SFO right now. This isn't a problem with the base it is a symptom of being a junior base. Close SFO, and the junior pilots hired will leave whatever the next junior base is, for the top 3 just like before.
06-18-2024, 11:50 AM
#1009
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,914
Dude ****. Stop posting this garbage whether talks are there or not. You are wrong more than you are right and all you do is post crap to get the pilot group spun up. We JUST moved into terminal one with a village and a separate pilot room and a brand new lounge. Yep lets spend millions of dollars in SFO just to close it because getting 25 FOs in SFO is semi hard...
There will always be junior bases and there will always be issues staffing those bases. Hell United has SFO vacancies in BOTH seats. Every airline has a junior base and every airline constantly shuffles to staff them. I love pilots act so shocked that a junior base is hard to staff...
There will always be junior bases and there will always be issues staffing those bases. Hell United has SFO vacancies in BOTH seats. Every airline has a junior base and every airline constantly shuffles to staff them. I love pilots act so shocked that a junior base is hard to staff...
06-18-2024, 11:53 AM
#1010
Mmmm wine
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Position: The Jet
Posts: 1,070
Hmm, except they have everything to do with the amount of flying we are doing versus putting crews in hotels, or having them based there. If the flying gets covered one way or another, then every base is irrelevant.
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