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Old 01-21-2023, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ASpilot0936
And all it took was a severe ice storm and a company wide meltdown to do it. All you knuckleheads who beat your chest about how much $$ this lackluster contract made you in Dec is hilarious. Like there's going to be a meltdown happening every month.
I’m scratching my head here too…not sure how anyone could take the results of late last year and project into the future. It was a rare windfall and I certainly wouldn’t expect it going forward.
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Old 01-21-2023, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I agree with most of all this. But I think the PBP max is 10%. Someone correct me if I’m wrong?
13% is max this year.
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Old 01-21-2023, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ASpilot0936
And all it took was a severe ice storm and a company wide meltdown to do it. All you knuckleheads who beat your chest about how much $$ this lackluster contract made you in Dec is hilarious. Like there's going to be a meltdown happening every month.
No storms:

January 15 days off (including 5 vacation days). 15 days of line flying. One of those was a day trip that was cancelled, made PCM but not used. So for all practical purposes, 14 days of physical flying and 16 days of not physically flying.

Total pay for January = 108.5 hrs credit.

Yeah, Alaska sucks




February, no vacation, no training, just a normal full month:

By *choice* 17 days of flying, 13 days off, 102 credit.

Looking at the reserve grid, I can drop 6 days of work and go to 19 days off, 11 days of flying and settle for 71 hrs credit. (CA rsv coverage is very good in my base these days).




And none of this is 150% or 200% Premium. This is all just normal flight pay, normal trips.
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Old 01-21-2023, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CordovaCA
13% is max this year.
Ah I see. Thank you
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Old 01-21-2023, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
No storms:

January 15 days off (including 5 vacation days). 15 days of line flying. One of those was a day trip that was cancelled, made PCM but not used. So for all practical purposes, 14 days of physical flying and 16 days of not physically flying.

Total pay for January = 108.5 hrs credit.

Yeah, Alaska sucks




February, no vacation, no training, just a normal full month:

By *choice* 17 days of flying, 13 days off, 102 credit.

Looking at the reserve grid, I can drop 6 days of work and go to 19 days off, 11 days of flying and settle for 71 hrs credit. (CA rsv coverage is very good in my base these days).




And none of this is 150% or 200% Premium. This is all just normal flight pay, normal trips.
13 days off? I prefer to have a life outside of work. A better contract where you make that same money but work less would be beneficial too, but no one thinks of that since "that's the way we've always done it and if you don't like it, leave."

Think outside the box for once people.
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Old 01-21-2023, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ASpilot0936
13 days off? I prefer to have a life outside of work. A better contract where you make that same money but work less would be beneficial too, but no one thinks of that since "that's the way we've always done it and if you don't like it, leave."

Think outside the box for once people.
That’s only 2 overnights the whole month. The rest are day trips. It feels like a normal 9-5 job. Home every night with kids to do homework, play, tuck them in.
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Old 01-21-2023, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
That’s only 2 overnights the whole month. The rest are day trips. It feels like a normal 9-5 job. Home every night with kids to do homework, play, tuck them in.
Senior enough to hold M-F day turns and all you get is 13 days off?? I can't for the life of me figure out exactly why people voted for this. Mgmt is laughing all the way to the bank..... Must be nice being senior as I'm sure you don't give a $hit about what contract you get or how much you get paid. For the other 95% of us who can't consistently hold the M-F day turns, we want better work rules & pay that actually keeps us with our peers.

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Old 01-21-2023, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ASpilot0936
Senior enough to hold M-F day turns and all you get is 13 days off?? I can't for the life of me figure out exactly why people voted for this. Mgmt is laughing all the way to the bank..... Must be nice being senior as I'm sure you don't give a $hit about what contract you get or how much you get paid. For the other 95% of us who can't consistently hold the M-F day turns, we want better work rules & pay that actually keeps us with our peers.
Actually, junior enough to barely hold OF lines. Who said anything about M-F? I take what I can get. Day trips go senior. I grab them from open time or pilot grabs. I'm about to hit 12th yr pay, it's not like I moved laterally on pay, I started at 1st year pay of $44/hr on an Airbus. I don't know why you make it sound like I don't know what being junior is.
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Old 01-21-2023, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ASpilot0936
13 days off? I prefer to have a life outside of work. A better contract where you make that same money but work less would be beneficial too, but no one thinks of that since "that's the way we've always done it and if you don't like it, leave."

Think outside the box for once people.
One of the most junior upgrades at DAL was a former AS guy whom I figured was guna ride the storm out… He went to DAL a few months before me and just got ER CA. When he finishes training roughly at his one year anniversary he’ll be at $320/hr… beating every topped out CA rate here.
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Old 01-21-2023, 05:02 PM
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One of the most junior upgrades at DAL was a former AS guy whom I figured was guna ride the storm out… He went to DAL a few months before me and just got ER CA. When he finishes training roughly at his one year anniversary he’ll be at $320/hr… beating every topped out CA rate here.
So essentially you’re saying if you don’t like it here, leave. But I thought we can’t say that?
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