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02-17-2023, 01:11 AM

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Avgeek7248

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Originally Posted by av8or

If the Biden administration’s “anti-trust” philosophy is as malleable as his “pro-labor” philosophy is, Id bet you a steak dinner they somehow come to terms and allow it.

I’d be pretty surprised if it doesn’t get green lit.

02-17-2023, 07:32 AM

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rickair7777

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Originally Posted by Avgeek7248

I’d be pretty surprised if it doesn’t get green lit.

Yes, it's just posturing for the base. If big business wants to do something it must be bad.

02-18-2023, 08:53 AM

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nene

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Originally Posted by Avgeek7248

I’d be pretty surprised if it doesn’t get green lit.

Once the appropriate campaign donations and PAC donations have been made, anything is possible in the FED govt. Mergers, waiving laws that you just passed to certify new aircraft types, etc. Congress is definitely pliable.

02-21-2023, 07:34 AM

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Flyboy8784

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Originally Posted by nene

^^^^^^^^ This

Airlines don't dump millions of dollars into pre merger planning, just for the DOJ to be like "Oh wait......you thought we'd approve this?!?!? bwahahahahah!!! Yeah that's not happening......sorry...."

What I care about more than anything is the NEA. That could be a nice opportunity for us if the DOJ throws that out.

03-02-2023, 09:51 AM

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mrfishy

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With Delta's TA passing, how does that affect the Alaska snap up clause?

03-02-2023, 09:55 AM

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ExperimentalAB

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Originally Posted by mrfishy

With Delta's TA passing, how does that affect the Alaska snap up clause?

We don’t have a snap-up. We have a lawyerese-agreement that might result in some fuzzy average if, and only if, all of the stars all align by a certain date.

03-02-2023, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mrfishy

With Delta's TA passing, how does that affect the Alaska snap up clause?

Here's the contract language:

4. Market Rate Adjustment: On September 1, 2023 and September 1, 2024, Pilots will receive the higher of the following:
a. the pay increases described above, or
b. thepayachievedbyapplyingtheslopeinthetablesaboveto theaverageof
the following top of scale Captain rates: United (737-MAX 8/9), American (Group II), Delta (737-900), Southwest (multiplied by 1.149 to account for TFP), and JetBlue (A320/321).
Exception: JetBlue will only be included in the average if a new agreement on pay rates is in place.

03-02-2023, 10:17 AM

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ShyGuy

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For this year, need 2 of the 3 (AA, UA, SW) to get new contracts in place before Sept 1 in order for AS to see higher than $318/hr.

03-02-2023, 03:28 PM

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And if all get new contracts that at least meet Delta rates we get 337. What will you complain about then? Delta has set the stage for UA, AA and SWA.

03-02-2023, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer

And if all get new contracts that at least meet Delta rates we get 337. What will you complain about then? Delta has set the stage for UA, AA and SWA.

UA, SWA and AA. Probably zero chance all 3 get a new contract by September.

UA maybe by September 2023. AA maybe September 2024. SWA unknown.

I'm a lot more upset about our "retro" pay. I wound up with 22K working every month through the pandemic. My buddy hired the same month at Delta, as I at AS on the 320 as an FO: 70K.