KnockKnock

You should ask yourself, why is it that " there's no way DL and UA accept anything less than $320 year 1 narrowbody"? Then ask yourself, "why WILL Alaska pilots accept less than $320 year 1 narrowbody"?

We deserve better. Now is our time to get it. You place way too much faith into this average pay clause. It's not a "snap up" its not a "me too". There are waaaay too many variables that have to happen for our rate to change. First off. $306 won't ever change. The first look at the averages will be Sept. 1st, '23. The first rate that MIGHT change is $318. The second look back will be on Sept. 1st, '24.

This is like hoping against hope that your favorite team will make the playoffs, if ONLY 3 other teams lose, 1 ties AND your team wins 3 in a row all in the same week....

It has a very low likelihood of happening. We need to do the heavy lifting on our own and not rely on other airlines.

Carebear

Maybe because you’re the 6th biggest airline and your revenues are what the big 3 make in 6 months. You’re also the first out of the gate.

echelon

How about our profit margins? Also, do you really think $14/hr makes even a drop in the bucket of their revenue?

CordovaCA

Think? 14/hr isn't some hard thing to crunch. If every pilot got 14 more per hour it'd cost the company north of 60 million. So yes that would be noticeable in the profit margins.

KnockKnock

ASA's profits were historically high in the decade before Covid. They got billions of tax payers dollars in bail outs during covid. Exited covid with less debt than they entered are now once again the highest profit margins in the industry post covid. Size of the airline does not matter. Now is the time to get what we deserve. But you've made it clear, you believe AS pilots deserve less. This thinking is why this airline is not a destination airline. It could be though.

Carebear

$14x85hrsx12mox2800pilots = $39,984,000. That’s generally an entire quarter of net income for Alaska.

Mind you, you’re already going from $266 to $306 and have decent work rules. We’ll se how long Alaska’s industry leading profits stick around now that they have to pay their pilots somewhere in the same ballpark as everyone else.

echelon

Not what I meant. The guy to whom I replied was justifying our pay rate being lower than that for which the big 3 would settle by claiming that "Alaska's revenues are what the big 3 make in 6 months." My point is why doesn't he look at profit margins instead, an area in which we blow all of the big 3 out of the water.

Carebear

I’ve said before Alaska pilots at least raised the bar for everyone else, including United who decided their pilots deserved less. Also the fixation on a number as opposed to the entire contract with work rules that’ll bring your W2 up is the definition of missing the forest for the trees.

CordovaCA

2800 pilots 😂go look at the seniority list. Also taxes, PBP, 401k. Fun stuff letting pilots run math. Also maybe fact check your net income statement.

Carebear

Your profits are high because your company has used your awful contract from 9 years ago to blow everyone else out of the water. Welcome to what everyone else has been getting for the past 10 years.