Is AS a destination airline now?
09-27-2022, 11:08 AM
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My take so far...
Pay (total comp): Maybe close to SWA but not past.
Schedule/QOL: Likely better than SWA. Still need to see the actual language, and let 3300 people play devil's advocate with that. I'm pretty sure the union already worked that over very, very thoroughly so not expecting many loopholes. But we'll see.
I think AS pilots will have perhaps more flexibility to trade between $ and QOL than SWA.
Pay (total comp): Maybe close to SWA but not past.
Schedule/QOL: Likely better than SWA. Still need to see the actual language, and let 3300 people play devil's advocate with that. I'm pretty sure the union already worked that over very, very thoroughly so not expecting many loopholes. But we'll see.
I think AS pilots will have perhaps more flexibility to trade between $ and QOL than SWA.
09-27-2022, 01:10 PM
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09-27-2022, 01:36 PM
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09-27-2022, 02:48 PM
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ADG is a protection more than a rig. It helps to prevent unproductive pairings from being built. A 2 for 1 duty rig is the other way to skin the same cat. ADG is better imo due to the fact 2 for 1 isn’t better until 10.5 hrs duty in this case. 2 for 1 also doesn’t help with the last min short garbage turn that needs covering. I believe DL might be leading the pack at 530 or 545 but there are others at 5. DL might even be calendar but it is still an average. What do you have right now? It would be helpful if you had a min calendar day to go with that but I’m not sure if anyone has both?
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09-27-2022, 03:13 PM
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ADG is a protection more than a rig. It helps to prevent unproductive pairings from being built. A 2 for 1 duty rig is the other way to skin the same cat. ADG is better imo due to the fact 2 for 1 isn’t better until 10.5 hrs duty in this case. 2 for 1 also doesn’t help with the last min short garbage turn that needs covering. I believe DL might be leading the pack at 530 or 545 but there are others at 5. DL might even be calendar but it is still an average. What do you have right now? It would be helpful if you had a min calendar day to go with that but I’m not sure if anyone has both?
DL has 5:15.
09-27-2022, 05:35 PM
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That’s not what you need to worry about with the ADG. It’s more like the 3 calendar 2 duty period red eyes that will pay 10.5. There’s not enough time for the 3.5 to 1 tafb rig to kick in on some of those. Like I mentioned there’s downside to both.
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