OTZeagle1

Yup, thanks I get 2x a day the broken clock is right 😉. Already had it, my point is I have heard the comment more then once. Yup, like a hundred times.

OTZeagle1

Remember this? What was the date? Yup, I am right “20% of the time, 100% of the time”… most of you should be embarrassed, all I have given out is the current plan 100% of the time. Most of you can’t handle what I give out because you just don’t want it to be the plan. I am not personally attached to any of the info… It’s just simply the current plan. If anyone took the time and cut and paste all the information I have given out over the years, you would all realize, it’s really good gouge. Like really good. And that’s at a company where the plan changes daily. Look I gave we were going single fleet, all 320’s gone by 2023 in 2016🤔…. Crazy huh. Look it up, I told everyone to check back in 2023. How does crow taste.
All that said, I think going forward will not be as painful as many are fretting about. Maybe a little “stagflation” over the next 18 mos. It should all work itself out. Forward bookings look great into early Q3, if that holds and oil settles, this could be really good. The more oil spikes and the economy slows, the more “stagflation.” Bid is smaller, but it’s been all over the place. I honestly think things are looking up of late.
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🤔. When again did I write this

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Last thing I saw showed 140 Airbus CA’s and 130 FO’s by JAN 1 2023😱.
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How about the date on that one? you all said back when I wrote it to check back in 2023. How does that look now? I know 2x a day. I could go on and on but my glass is as dry as the 30!

KnockKnock

I don't think there was ever a question about going single fleet. Was that really, "good gouge", or just common sense? What's more interesting is your desperate need to be perceived as right. Why is that? You like to give yourself large margins of error, so you can come back later and say, "see, I was right!" Followed by 20 emojis. You gave yourself a 7 point spread on the yes vote, started at 75%, ended at 78%+/- 3%. SW guy threw a dart and ended up more accurate than you. You didn't like that, so you went on the attack. You've predicted our merger and or acquisition with HA, UA, SW and AA. Then, to cover your six, you added in our staying independent. Brilliant, no way to be wrong there! You said there were imminent furloughs coming in 2020. Not one furlough.... Why do you bother with these, "predictions"? Have you honestly convinced yourself that this "info", is useful?

NotTellin

You know that if nobody engaged, he would eventually go away. Of course you would have to endure a large amount of self gratification then insults trying to get a reaction prior to that. I on the other hand only see this.

Carebear

This entire subforum is pretty much a circlejerk of 10 guys spending their entire lives bashing otz and shyguy for ever posting a shred of optimism on any issue at all. The only rumors you want to read are those of doom and gloom, and nonstop bashing of anything that is associated with any airline. You spent an entire month continuously demeaning these 2 and anyone else that didn’t agree with the views of the other 18% of your entire pilot group.

I will give you credit though, I’m kind of surprised you haven’t already started conspiring to storm Seatac to try and decertify the ALPA election (then again, it hasn’t officially been signed yet). Who knows, maybe your Scope bag tags will be replaced with, “Not my CBA” tags.

OTZeagle1

Whatever dude… I told everyone when the contract was done, remember that. From the word go, I said 80%, because those were the numbers, my actual prediction was 81% and I lined it up for everyone. I guaranteed it pasted by 75% +-3, knowing it would for sure pass by that margin. what did people say to that 🤔. Sorry dude it did not pass by 85%. If I said 85% everyone would have jumped on it, see you were wrong, it wasn’t by 85%.
How about the exact upgrades to the contract, how about the exact book order. Nope back then most loud VX were still convinced the bus was staying. Go back and look, not obvious then, just obvious now.
Yup, I gave the exact furlough numbers, the union saved that.
Yes, my understanding is SWA kicked our tires last spring, AS talked with B6 but both wanted branding and control. We have been shopping HAL for the past couple of years, and yes UAL is very interested in SEA. There have been so many tea leaves flying of late for HAL, I have to believe something is about to go down. I guess we then find out if SK has to have SEA. I personally want to see us stay independent.
You know why you all hate me? I am happy, I like Alaska Airlines, and I have been very fortunate outside of aviation. I work for Alaska by choice. You all hate everything Alaska, your miserable, rude, bitter, and broke.

You all hate Alaska and I love our not so perfect company, that really makes your little group of 30, lose their minds🤭

Doctor13

All I want to know is, does holiday pay in fact start in April for some weird reason or is it December?

KnockKnock

Thanks for this. I love starting my morning with a good laugh. Its impressive, the amount of time you're spending, carefully crafting your soap box from which to preach your moral superiority. I see you're a new poster but most likely not a new reader. I'm sure, through the years, you've read Otz's posts. You know the ones where he call everyone: morons, stupid, failures, clueless etc. etc..... He belittles anyone that has a legitimate gripe with the company. He berates anyone who voices their discontent with the contract. His identity is so wrapped up with being an AS pilot, that he confuses any voiced dissatisfaction with the company, as a personal attack on him. Because how could such a great man work for anything less than a great company, right?? He clearly has a personality disorder. Proven by his incessant need to be right. Even when not right, he performs some mental gymnastics to become righ. You don't have to have a psych degree to see it.
It's also laughable that you and others on here keep pushing this narrative of, "no voters are spewing hate for yes voters while yes voters are simply spreading love and knowledge"... I'm sure you're fully capable of reading back through the pages and seeing it's been a tit for tat exchange and both yes and no voters have played the same game. Let's not try and fool each other now.
As for me, the TA didn't meet my expectations, I voted no. It passed, nothing I can do about it now so I'll learn the contract and move on. We can revisit this in a year to see if either of our concerns were legitimate.

OTZeagle1

Thanksgiving on pays!

KnockKnock

Just so we're crystal clear, I've never worked a day in my life for VX. And if you've convinced yourself that only former VX pilots could ever dare be dissatisfied with how AS is being run, you're really out to lunch.
I don't think anybody hates you for being happy. I don't think anybody hates you at all. You give yourself too much credit. You're not important enough in any of our lives to hate you. I think people react to you for being a condescending azzhat, that jumps all over them for voicing discontent with AS. You say AS is your side gig but it's very clear AS is your identity, and you have a very hard time differentiating discontent with the company and discontent with OTZeagle.
As far as your predictions go, you're just the town crier, the neighborhood gossip, nothing more. You catch wind of something and then rush to APC to share your "inside" knowledge. It makes you feel important. Like Qanon followers, Only they know the truth...
Sure, AS might get bought, acquire another airline or stay independent. Those are kind of the only options available. When one of them happens, you can't really come back and say, "I told you so!". I've been hearing about our imminent acquisition, demise and growth since the second I stepped foot in the AS flight deck. Does that make all those hundreds of pilots right over the years, when it happens?
Personally, I hope you're right and AS makes a move or we get bought. It would be even better if it would happen in November.