TA is here
09-24-2022, 09:57 AM
#192
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 1,241
Well OTZ and Iamalaska were right. I urge everyone to take a breath go through the details. Write questions down, comments about the things you don’t like, including the parts you believe to be missing. Then after you digest it reach out to your reps and discuss it. Go to the road show and ask more questions. If you don’t like what they have to say vote no, if get your questions answered to your satisfaction vote yes. I don’t begrudge anyone for either side. Can’t wrap my head around which way this is headed, loud people screaming no, loud people screaming yes, then people like me that haven’t decided, need days to go through it and have my questions answered.
09-24-2022, 09:57 AM
#193
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: This side of the dirt.
Posts: 897
Well OTZ and Iamalaska were right. I urge everyone to take a breath go through the details. Write questions down, comments about the things you don’t like, including the parts you believe to be missing. Then after you digest it reach out to your reps and discuss it. Go to the road show and ask more questions. If you don’t like what they have to say vote no, if get your questions answered to your satisfaction vote yes. I don’t begrudge anyone for either side. Can’t wrap my head around which way this is headed, loud people screaming no, loud people screaming yes, then people like me that haven’t decided, need days to go through it and have my questions answered.
09-24-2022, 09:59 AM
#194
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Joined APC: May 2016
Position: 737 tiller master
Posts: 288
Whatever his age is, he writes at a level of a elementary remedial D-F student and possesses a maturity level of a 7 year old at best. Reminds me of that not too bright kid at the playground who was always bragging about his toys and sucking up to anyone of influence. If he’s an instructor here, he’s definitely a backdoor hire or was extremely lucky. You know what they say? It’s better to be lucky than be good.
09-24-2022, 10:03 AM
#195
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 70
Whatever his age is, he writes at a level of an elementary remedial D-F student and possesses a maturity level of a 7 year old at best. Reminds me of that not too bright kid at the playground who was always bragging about his toys and sucking up to anyone of influence. If he’s an instructor here, he’s definitely a backdoor hire or was extremely lucky. You know what they say? It’s better to be lucky than be good.
09-24-2022, 10:03 AM
#196
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,203
09-24-2022, 11:10 AM
#198
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 694
I said the same thing when Spirit got their new contract and rates.... "Oh, we'll be negotiating by 2019/2020, so no way we fall behind them"......here we are in 2022, Spirt leaped us, we missed an entire contract cycle and now we're just trying to meet the bar set in 2019. If you think this 3 year deal doesn't end up being a 7-8 year deal, you're crazy. We may be negotiating again in 2025 but that doesn't mean sheet. We were negotiating in 2019 too. We need to have a contract that we'll all be comfortable with, 7-8-10 years from now. For me, this ain't it. Too much money left on the table and too many negative precedents set for future negotiations. Don't forget, this group hasn't voted on anything since 2013. We've been under the same contract with a minor adjustment in '17, for almost 10 yrs. Retro NOW or we're setting ourselves up for the same struggle and eventual disappointment later.
09-24-2022, 11:27 AM
#200
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Joined APC: May 2016
Position: 737 tiller master
Posts: 288
Read the executive summary a few times and pay close attention to the implementation section. Oh by the way, how’s our third step coming along? This TA looks more and more like a yuge turd. Most of us senior guys can do well with $306/hr and sail off into the sunset but how about we think as a team this time?!?! Section 25 needs to be explained in detail as there can be many loopholes from language such as “at the discretion of crew scheduling”. 12 days off on reserve (13 off in maybe 3 months out of the year) still does not address the QOL issues for our junior pilots. For me, the slap-in-the-face signing bonus along with willingly handing the company a bigger bat to beat us with and drag on future negotiations without being penalized is a no-go.
