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Old 09-23-2022, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
Dude it wasn’t just one text… that’s embarrassing… can you imagine the response noise on that.🤭🤭🤭

thanks for your insight though!
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Old 09-24-2022, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by All Bizniz
Isn't it in September 2025, three years from now, that they'll break $400? At that time, IF the TA passes, we'd be at $330, and negotiating again.

In any case, apples and oranges. UPS does not fly narrow bodies.
Don’t bring up facts… UPS is making 400 now or 2025 but who cares, to make my point they are making 400 now… It’s the same group, math is very hard for them. ALASKA SUCKS that’s all they will ever know! Pretty embarrassing.

For the record, we will likely be at 340-350 range in 2024 with the me too
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Old 09-24-2022, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
Don’t bring up facts… UPS is making 400 now or 2025 but who cares, to make my point they are making 400 now… It’s the same group, math is very hard for them. ALASKA SUCKS that’s all they will ever know! Pretty embarrassing.

For the record, we will likely be at 340-350 range in 2024 with the me too
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Old 09-24-2022, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by plt32173
Read the summary. Work rules look great. Seems to set the bar in many areas. This whole thread is the usual flame.

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Double-breasted admiral here. In what areas are you setting the bar in work rules? Specifics? Genuinely curious as I hope you guys knocked it out of the park as that will help us. Cheers and good work if true.
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Old 09-24-2022, 12:31 AM
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So, if I moved the boat to St Francis YC, bought a house on Russian Hill 🤔 then is it just a given, I’d lose my mind, literally go crazy 🤔. Is there something in the water in SFO, I mean how long does it take? Does it hurt?
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Old 09-24-2022, 03:47 AM
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Outside looking in…did I read correctly that Alpa will build the rotations w/in PBS parameters? If so..this is a HUGE QOL win. Fwiw at Widget…we have an Alpa committee submit our PBS/Rotation wish list to DL and it is summarily dismissed. NYC Rotations on narrowbodies have routinely been constructed as 98% non-commutable on both ends. Built up Reserve trips toss PWA parameters out the window and are built to incredibly fatiguing FAR limits.
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Old 09-24-2022, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Softheborder
Outside looking in…did I read correctly that Alpa will build the rotations w/in PBS parameters? If so..this is a HUGE QOL win. Fwiw at Widget…we have an Alpa committee submit our PBS/Rotation wish list to DL and it is summarily dismissed. NYC Rotations on narrowbodies have routinely been constructed as 98% non-commutable on both ends. Built up Reserve trips toss PWA parameters out the window and are built to incredibly fatiguing FAR limits.
Correct. It sounds like the company can set cost parameters to stay within (curious how this will be borne out in the full TA language), but the rest will be ALPA controlled.
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Old 09-24-2022, 04:25 AM
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I was being sarcastic. I’m for sure voting no. Huge miss. Shy and otz can continue to spread orphanage
Originally Posted by Av8rRr
You and OTZ. Add Shy into it too. So you’re looking at maybe a 1% yes vote. Bring on the strike!
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Old 09-24-2022, 04:47 AM
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Thank you MEC members and countless volunteers for due diligence to negotiate a pretty good deal.
Would love to see better pay and work rules…wouldn’t we all, but what’s the plan if this fails?

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Old 09-24-2022, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ala5ka
I was being sarcastic. I’m for sure voting no. Huge miss. Shy and otz can continue to spread orphanage
Originally Posted by Ala5ka
I think I was one of 40 to leave in 2019 and that number has grown substantially since then..from what I hear from my friends still there it’s already nearly 70 for this year and it’s May.
Wow you came back to Alaska after leaving in 2019? This forum is ridiculous.

These are huge gains. Of the 15ish pilot I personally know only 1 is saying no. Most are happy with the NCs work and trust the MEC. Those of you who don't should stop hitting replying all with "My MEC speaks for me" then trying to negotiate on a public forum.
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