TA is here
09-23-2022, 10:46 PM
#111
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 685
The TA has some good nuggets in there.
However...
The Retro, or whatever it's called, is a HUGE disappointment.
Also, I was hoping for a better pay rate, but presumably the snap up clause should keep us from being embarrassingly far behind our peers once they get their new rates.
At this point, I think its a question of RISK vs REWARD.
We are in an unprecedented period where the leverage has swung in favor of the pilots. We also however, are facing the possibility of some STRONG economic headwinds if the economists, and business leaders are to be believed.
If you're more on the cautious side, vote YES to lock in the big QOL, Scheduling and Scope wins, and hope that the Snap Up works as intended.
If you're determined to get that once in a lifetime contract, vote NO and fight to get what you think you really deserve, and hope that you get it before the sheet hits the fan (disrupts the airflow).
Attend the roadshows, get educated (e.g. projected W2 improvements), and that should allow you to confidently make a choice, one way or another.
However...
The Retro, or whatever it's called, is a HUGE disappointment.
Also, I was hoping for a better pay rate, but presumably the snap up clause should keep us from being embarrassingly far behind our peers once they get their new rates.
At this point, I think its a question of RISK vs REWARD.
We are in an unprecedented period where the leverage has swung in favor of the pilots. We also however, are facing the possibility of some STRONG economic headwinds if the economists, and business leaders are to be believed.
If you're more on the cautious side, vote YES to lock in the big QOL, Scheduling and Scope wins, and hope that the Snap Up works as intended.
If you're determined to get that once in a lifetime contract, vote NO and fight to get what you think you really deserve, and hope that you get it before the sheet hits the fan (disrupts the airflow).
Attend the roadshows, get educated (e.g. projected W2 improvements), and that should allow you to confidently make a choice, one way or another.
Last edited by All Bizniz; 09-23-2022 at 11:00 PM.
09-23-2022, 10:47 PM
#112
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 70
The TA has some good nuggets in there.
The Retro, or whatever it's called is a HUGE disappointment.
I was hoping for a better pay rate, but presumably the snap up clause should keep us from being embarrassingly far behind our peers once they get their new rates.
At this point, I think its a question of RISK vs REWARD.
We are in an unprecedented period where the leverage has swung in favor of the pilots. We also however, are facing the possibility of some STRONG economic headwinds if the economists, and business leaders are to be believed.
If you're more on the cautious side, vote YES to lock in the big QOL, Scheduling and Scope wins, and hope that the Snap Up works as intended.
If you're determined to get that once in a lifetime contract, vote NO and fight to get what you think you really deserve, and hope that you get it before the sheet hits the fan (disrupts the flow).
Attend the roadshow, get educated, and that should allow you to confidently make a choice, one way or another.
The Retro, or whatever it's called is a HUGE disappointment.
I was hoping for a better pay rate, but presumably the snap up clause should keep us from being embarrassingly far behind our peers once they get their new rates.
At this point, I think its a question of RISK vs REWARD.
We are in an unprecedented period where the leverage has swung in favor of the pilots. We also however, are facing the possibility of some STRONG economic headwinds if the economists, and business leaders are to be believed.
If you're more on the cautious side, vote YES to lock in the big QOL, Scheduling and Scope wins, and hope that the Snap Up works as intended.
If you're determined to get that once in a lifetime contract, vote NO and fight to get what you think you really deserve, and hope that you get it before the sheet hits the fan (disrupts the flow).
Attend the roadshow, get educated, and that should allow you to confidently make a choice, one way or another.
09-23-2022, 10:52 PM
#113
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 910
They didn't.
09-23-2022, 10:52 PM
#114
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 1,241
Dude I am not a yes vote advocate. I think everyone should vote what they feel. Please vote no, if you don’t like the TA.
I really, really want to attend the SFO roadshow. That is truly a can’t miss sob fest. I am absolutely going to clear my calendar, bringing the best 🥃🥃🥃, and just watch the show😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I really, really want to attend the SFO roadshow. That is truly a can’t miss sob fest. I am absolutely going to clear my calendar, bringing the best 🥃🥃🥃, and just watch the show😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
09-23-2022, 10:53 PM
#115
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 910
Dude I am not a yes vote advocate. I think everyone should vote what they feel. Please vote no, if you don’t like the TA.
I really, really want to attend the SFO roadshow. That is truly a can’t miss sob fest. I am absolutely going to clear my calendar, bringing the best 🥃🥃🥃, and just watch the show😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I really, really want to attend the SFO roadshow. That is truly a can’t miss sob fest. I am absolutely going to clear my calendar, bringing the best 🥃🥃🥃, and just watch the show😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
09-23-2022, 10:55 PM
#117
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 1,241
Dude, you are a highlife man! Yes, there is absolutely a chance AS needs us all tied up in a long term contract.🙄🙄🙄 but yes, I know you have it all figured out!
09-23-2022, 10:55 PM
#118
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 70
Dude I am not a yes vote advocate. I think everyone should vote what they feel. Please vote no, if you don’t like the TA.
I really, really want to attend the SFO roadshow. That is truly a can’t miss sob fest. I am absolutely going to clear my calendar, bringing the best 🥃🥃🥃, and just watch the show😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
I really, really want to attend the SFO roadshow. That is truly a can’t miss sob fest. I am absolutely going to clear my calendar, bringing the best 🥃🥃🥃, and just watch the show😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
09-23-2022, 10:57 PM
#119
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 70
09-23-2022, 10:57 PM
#120
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 910
I guess old habits die hard.
