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Old 09-01-2023, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by THE SHAFT
Skywest PBS was solved by globalization, ours is sequential with limits on stack height.
I think the average line value was 87 for August. With the max line value allowed at 87 and the trailing line value at 83, my understanding is that's how far the schedule will be able to be pushed for each pilot. How does it matter how it's sorted? PBS can't make trips go away. It's still going to assign them, by whatever sorting method doesn't seem very important.
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Old 09-01-2023, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
I think the average line value was 87 for August. With the max line value allowed at 87 and the trailing line value at 83, my understanding is that's how far the schedule will be able to be pushed for each pilot. How does it matter how it's sorted? PBS can't make trips go away. It's still going to assign them, by whatever sorting method doesn't seem very important.
I disagree. Unfortunately you had a bad experience with an unorganized labor group and the latitude management had to tune up their solution. That won’t happen here. I have faith in our PBS working group. Regardless of our opinions change is on the horizon, might as well see that as a positive. 😎
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Old 09-02-2023, 12:27 PM
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I really think that some kind of weight should be placed on cost of living. Particularly the cost of purchasing a home. SAN doesn't really help the dynamic that all of our bases are incredibly expensive places to live. Not so much if you're already here but it's very expensive if you are moving to one of our bases from almost anywhere else.
Lot of pilots in SAN. Only other base is SKW, I know folks at SKW who would jump to any major who opened a base there.

I also know commuters who say they'll never move back to CA unless a SAN base opens. So it might go senior.

It would help retention too. Skip the drive to LAX is worth something.
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Old 09-02-2023, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by THE SHAFT
I disagree. Unfortunately you had a bad experience with an unorganized labor group and the latitude management had to tune up their solution. That won’t happen here. I have faith in our PBS working group. Regardless of our opinions change is on the horizon, might as well see that as a positive. 😎
Here’s the language:


F. Bidding Parameters
1. Line Values:
a. Average Line Value (ALV): The ALV is the number of all known Credit Hours, to include pre-assigned Credit, established by the Company that is the projected average of all Bid Block holder PBS awards for a Base Position in a Bid Period. The ALV shall be between seventy-two hours (72:00) and eighty-five hours (85:00). A PBS solution must remain plus two hours (2:00) and minus one hour (1:00) of the published ALV.
b. Trailing Line Value (TLV): The TLV is a twelve (12) Bid Period rolling average of the planned ALV for a Base Position. The TLV shall be between seventy-four hours (74:00) and eighty-three hours (83:00).
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Old 09-03-2023, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
Here’s the language:


F. Bidding Parameters
1. Line Values:
a. Average Line Value (ALV): The ALV is the number of all known Credit Hours, to include pre-assigned Credit, established by the Company that is the projected average of all Bid Block holder PBS awards for a Base Position in a Bid Period. The ALV shall be between seventy-two hours (72:00) and eighty-five hours (85:00). A PBS solution must remain plus two hours (2:00) and minus one hour (1:00) of the published ALV.
b. Trailing Line Value (TLV): The TLV is a twelve (12) Bid Period rolling average of the planned ALV for a Base Position. The TLV shall be between seventy-four hours (74:00) and eighty-three hours (83:00).
That’s one small part of LOA 22-09. You should include the paragraphs with vacation, gdo and stack height. Bottom line if your junior and get unstacked yes you can expect to be at the higher end of ALV and TLV. If your outside the stack and elect for more days off and/or highly productive trips you can be closer to MMG.
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Old 09-03-2023, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That's for SWA, not AS.

A base might be possible with single fleet.

But rumor has it that the union shot down SAN about 15 years ago because the senior SEA boyz didn't want to lose their long SAN overnights. Guess that's what happens when you live in SEA, hate the rain and hate your wife.

Different union today though.
Not Quite….As is still the case today, Alaska Airlines wanted their cake and they wanted to eat it too.
The proposed SAN base was a laundry list of MOU’s blasting holes in every section of the contract. To that ALPA declined. Then the Temecula Cartel tried to get a Co-Terminal side letter modification to allow SAN. Their proposal was also a laundry list of MOU give aways…All this was post Contract 200…..We have never had good, long SAN layovers anyway…..
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Originally Posted by THE SHAFT
That’s one small part of LOA 22-09. You should include the paragraphs with vacation, gdo and stack height. Bottom line if your junior and get unstacked yes you can expect to be at the higher end of ALV and TLV. If your outside the stack and elect for more days off and/or highly productive trips you can be closer to MMG.
I guess I'll enjoy my month or three of artificially high seniority next year...
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I guess I'll enjoy my month or three of artificially high seniority next year...

Honestly hard to imagine you enjoying anything
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Honestly hard to imagine you enjoying anything
Well there ya have it. Ad Hominem. THE SHAFT, going right for personal attacks rather than contributing anything of value.
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/o...123000433.html

Currently, our stock price sucks. Good things on the way?
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