Alaska General Discussion
08-12-2023, 02:29 PM
#791
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Magic happens September 1st when we snap. Merger happens when HA’s board agrees to an all stock deal… paper has gotten expensive, I don’t think AS would approve a deal that requires anything more then 500 million in cash and the rest stock.
08-12-2023, 03:05 PM
#792
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I don't see how a HAL merger would be magical for the pilots. In addition to losing HI flying to SWA, they could also lose overlap HAL flying.
Some kids might get to fly widebodies many years from now after the fences are down. More likely they'd just replace them all with max 10's.
08-12-2023, 03:43 PM
#793
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08-12-2023, 05:00 PM
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Company granting a non-contractual snap up in the "spirit" of the agreement would be pretty magical.
I don't see how a HAL merger would be magical for the pilots. In addition to losing HI flying to SWA, they could also lose overlap HAL flying.
Some kids might get to fly widebodies many years from now after the fences are down. More likely they'd just replace them all with max 10's.
I don't see how a HAL merger would be magical for the pilots. In addition to losing HI flying to SWA, they could also lose overlap HAL flying.
Some kids might get to fly widebodies many years from now after the fences are down. More likely they'd just replace them all with max 10's.
08-12-2023, 05:30 PM
#795
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What’s the Southwest credit conversion from TFP to regular hourly rate right now? $285?
So is it so far 330 JetBlue, assuming all 3 big legacy count and at 340, and SWA 285?
That average is $327.
Would that sound about right, assuming AA and UA count before Sept 1?
So is it so far 330 JetBlue, assuming all 3 big legacy count and at 340, and SWA 285?
That average is $327.
Would that sound about right, assuming AA and UA count before Sept 1?
08-12-2023, 05:32 PM
#796
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And only $33 behind January 1st. I would hope they would be a little more forward thinking.
08-12-2023, 06:55 PM
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08-12-2023, 09:24 PM
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United, American, and Delta. From UAL's AIP:
Since all three have actual language for keeping their pay rates within 1% of each other, they're all going up Jan 2024.
Post UPA23 triggered Delta Snap up, all rates increase additional 1%. United pay rates will then match Delta through 2026, when Delta’s contract becomes amendable.
Jan 2024 bid period 5%
Jan 2025 bid period 4%
Jan 2026 bid period 4%
Jan 2027 bid period 3%
Jan 2024 bid period 5%
Jan 2025 bid period 4%
Jan 2026 bid period 4%
Jan 2027 bid period 3%
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