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Old 09-14-2022, 11:29 AM
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Come on OTZ. I’m bored on leave, I need some entertainment.
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Old 09-14-2022, 12:23 PM
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Latest ALPA podcast said to be sure we have our text alerts and emails subscribed for an announcement. That has to be a good sign. Maybe?
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Old 09-14-2022, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by G650guy
Have the wild rumors such as Untied purchasing Alaska, ie. Finally, been put to bed?
I wouldn’t necessarily say that… feels oddly familiar to the pre VX merger. But, OTZ knows it all so ask him 😂
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He said the announcement was going to be in Nov. slow ya roll
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Let's leave the hiring thread for hiring discussion please.
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Old 09-16-2022, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
It's a fool's errand to vote yes today on a subpar contract with the hopes that it will magically improve by an unknown amount later.
How much longer you want to wait? Until after the next recession is over?

https://www.usnews.com/news/business...-demand-slumps
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Old 09-16-2022, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
How much longer you want to wait? Until after the next recession is over?

https://www.usnews.com/news/business...-demand-slumps
Pessimism and Alaska pilots.. A better combo than peanut butter and jelly.
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https://www.barrons.com/articles/sou...el-51663244852
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Old 09-16-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
Pessimism and Alaska pilots.. A better combo than peanut butter and jelly.
Was just discussing current events. I'm not pessimistic, just have doubts that waiting for somebody else is the best plan... if you wait long enough, something bad is likely to happen. So far I've seen tech bubble, 9/11, 2008, covid, and war in Europe.

Big CBA negotiations are not going especially great, you can read about it on their forums, or talk to friends there if you have any.

I agree the indicators are a mixed bag right now, as to whether there's going to be a serious-ish downturn, or just mush along for a year or two.

I also think that pax airlines will fair better than average even in a downturn... I think people will appreciate the freedom to travel, since .gov has so kindly given us all a hall pass for a while.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Was just discussing current events. I'm not pessimistic, just have doubts that waiting for somebody else is the best plan... if you wait long enough, something bad is likely to happen. So far I've seen tech bubble, 9/11, 2008, covid, and war in Europe.

Big CBA negotiations are not going especially great, you can read about it on their forums, or talk to friends there if you have any.



I agree the indicators are a mixed bag right now, as to whether there's going to be a serious-ish downturn, or just mush along for a year or two.

I also think that pax airlines will fair better than average even in a downturn... I think people will appreciate the freedom to travel, since .gov has so kindly given us all a hall pass for a while.
Imagine pattern bargaining is like a 400m relay. You don't lead off with your slowest runner, nor do you anchor with your slowest. Optimally, you place them somewhere in the middle.

Alaska has the most ground to gain in this race, and it will be less than optimal for them to start first.

We'll see soon enough if we achieve parity+, but we are running a risk of being left behind by faster runners by going first.

Also, the pilot shortage is recession proof.
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