CordovaCA

If not for the wall of text it almost reads as satire. I'm also curious which four to five previous airlines were "WAY" better. And in what way? I'd like to hear specifics.

Would you prefer management was still stonewalling us in negotiations like many other carriers? We're now among the top paid narrowbody pilots. Have industry leading scope. Have received profit sharing that has beat every airline for 3 years running. Have (admittedly mediocre) but never before had snap up clause that keeps us competitive. Amazing vacation rules that are coming down the pipeline. Retained industry top LTD protections. And to top it all off Alaska has probably the best balance sheet of any airline to weather an economic downturn.

I believe we offer the best narrowbody package for someone who isn't interested in wide body flying and lives anywhere west of Denver. Just my opinion.

Av8rRr

This is extremely interesting. You’d choose Alaska over Southwest and their eleven bases? Bases are like aircraft, lets you be senior in other places. Kinda hard to see that beyond Seattle I know. 🤣 Wait till you see what contract they get. Industry standard isn’t what they aim for. It’ll put Alaska’s to shame. Wonder why so many west coast pilots are going to Southwest over Alaska? They must not know of this amazing new contact we got (joking).

Their scheduling flexibility is already better than ours with an old contract. Can’t wait to see what they get with the new. This last pandemic just showed that the “best balance sheet” didn’t do too much. It’s size.

CordovaCA

They get rolled into days off regularly, yes even lines holder. Work 3-5 legs a day including Hawaii with inter island. I like our schedules more. I have SWA friends
They have some great stuff. I have decent flexibility and its about to get even better. Oh and I can count on a day off, being a day off, which is worth probably more than whatever hourly rate they best us at some hypothetical date. But surprise! Whatever rate they get will be added to our snap up.

Where'd you hear new hires choosing them over us? I've heard the opposite. All anecdotal stories. Just a matter of opinion! Alaska is a great place to work currently. I know it's cool to hate on your employer and show up to work angry in this day and age. Try coming happy and grateful you can sit and pick your nose for 300 bucks an hour you probably will be easier to sit next to in the flight deck.

All Bizniz

And their pilots tolerate that piece of garbage in their contract? No thanks!

rickair7777

They make more money, and probably get more days off at most seniority levels. Pick your poison.

Carebear

Southwest has an attrition issue worse than Alaska does. They’re canceling captain upgrade classes and people are leaving. I know it’s fun hating on your airline but coke pop in the other forums and realize every airline has morale issues with their pilots. I still can’t believe Alaska pilots ratified a contract without Tumi bags.
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/s...nowledged.html

NotTellin

QOL (quality of life for the noob) was way better at 4 of the 5 and similar at the 5th. I did not leave any of them voluntarily. They ceased to exist or downsized to the point I was furloughed. The last one was bought by Alaska. My first airline job was in 1987 so I’ve seen some things and believe I have a good idea of what’s what.

NotTellin

I agree that I make more money now than I ever did at those other airlines. MONEY ISN’T EVERYTHING! I’ve always made enough to pay my bills and save for a rainy day. But, my Quality of life is the worst it’s been in 20 years. I prefer to spend time with my family at home NOT at work. Unfortunately at Alaskan Airways I spend 3-4 more days a month at work than I did in the past. I’m happy with my pay check (although I still think we could’ve done better). It’s the QOL that we are WAY behind others in the industry. It’s this fact that the 35 year AS pilot does not understand. They grew up in the system and know no different. Why they think they must cheerlead for the company is beyond me.

FreqFlyer

You must be a absolute joy to fly with…🙄

NotTellin

Why do you say that? I could say the same about you but I won’t because I have no idea who you are or what you’re like.