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Old 08-10-2024, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Spending negotaiting capital to reinforce stuff that's clearly protected by the FAR's is very low on my priority list.
I don't think not picking up your phone is coverd by the FARs? If you're SEA based we just got a reminder about it from the CPO. Considering how mine was issued and the ensuing follow up: I think there needs to be some contractual protection for calling CS back and how a PNC is added to your reserve line.

Was giving away RAP+3 required to gain something else? Why was it removed from our latest contract? There is no FAR limtiation to a DH at the end of your RAP.

5 days off in a row is also not required by FARs. This was another item given away.

None of the items I'm discussing are protected by FARs but they are nice things we no longer have. I understand this isn't a priority for many pilots at AS however it isn't about the FARs at all. I do not understand how that is relevant.
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Old 08-10-2024, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ELAC321
You do realize a Delta snap up this Sept would have been lower than our "snap average"?
You do realize it doesn’t have to be pegged to just one other airline right?

Also a real commuter clause would be great. Especially after two recent mergers under AS’s belt there will be a lot more commuters.
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Old 08-10-2024, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
I don't think not picking up your phone is coverd by the FARs? If you're SEA based we just got a reminder about it from the CPO. Considering how mine was issued and the ensuing follow up: I think there needs to be some contractual protection for calling CS back and how a PNC is added to your reserve line.

Was giving away RAP+3 required to gain something else? Why was it removed from our latest contract? There is no FAR limtiation to a DH at the end of your RAP.

5 days off in a row is also not required by FARs. This was another item given away.

None of the items I'm discussing are protected by FARs but they are nice things we no longer have. I understand this isn't a priority for many pilots at AS however it isn't about the FARs at all. I do not understand how that is relevant.
None of that is a priority for me, I not only didn't know it existed but have no idea what it even means. You can always call in fatigued, and I would if I worked a 12+ hour day and then they tried to DH me back on a redeye transcon.

But they never seem to DH me beyond a normal duty day, normally they give me a short hotel and a DH home the next morning, in which case I canx the DH and JS home same day.
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Old 08-10-2024, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
I don't think not picking up your phone is coverd by the FARs? If you're SEA based we just got a reminder about it from the CPO. Considering how mine was issued and the ensuing follow up: I think there needs to be some contractual protection for calling CS back and how a PNC is added to your reserve line.

Was giving away RAP+3 required to gain something else? Why was it removed from our latest contract? There is no FAR limtiation to a DH at the end of your RAP.

5 days off in a row is also not required by FARs. This was another item given away.

None of the items I'm discussing are protected by FARs but they are nice things we no longer have. I understand this isn't a priority for many pilots at AS however it isn't about the FARs at all. I do not understand how that is relevant.
Except it wasn't 5 days off, it was 5 24-hour periods. So if you were forced into the WOCL reserve lines you weren't even guaranteed 5 days off. The new system is exponentially better than what we had.
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