Alaska General Discussion
06-27-2024, 12:21 PM
#1771
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Position: Captain
Posts: 326
I’m not trying to be rude but do not understand the correlation. So, of that 1,200 at Delta, how many have already been hired? So, UAL opened the application window, that means they could hire 2,500 or Zero right? Are they both going through a merger? Have they both just introduced PBS, why does that mean, we will or will not do anything?
06-27-2024, 12:39 PM
#1772
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,112
I’m not trying to be rude but do not understand the correlation. So, of that 1,200 at Delta, how many have already been hired? So, UAL opened the application window, that means they could hire 2,500 or Zero right? Are they both going through a merger? Have they both just introduced PBS, why does that mean, we will or will not do anything?
06-27-2024, 01:37 PM
#1773
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Joined APC: Sep 2023
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 72
No prob, we are about to "hire" 1176 pilots and their associated unprofitable route structure with a bonus finger of 4 types of 65 airplanes. Half of that flying will be gone, I mean "integrated" (synergized?), in 5 years. Seems clear we are running a surplus of pilots for the forseeable future. The supply/demand curve has inverted. Get used to it.
06-27-2024, 03:06 PM
#1774
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Position: The Jet
Posts: 1,070
American isn't shrinking lol. Their retirements alone are going to dictate picking up hiring before the end of the year big time.
Everyone hired for attrition, and attrition stopped so everyone is temporarily fat. That combined with Boeing deliveries is creating a freeze. Yea it sucks but we will get through it. The shortage is over, it was fixed, and the massive hiring flood isn't going to happen like it did post COVID anytime soon. That being said, hiring will resume at some point for everyone.
Everyone hired for attrition, and attrition stopped so everyone is temporarily fat. That combined with Boeing deliveries is creating a freeze. Yea it sucks but we will get through it. The shortage is over, it was fixed, and the massive hiring flood isn't going to happen like it did post COVID anytime soon. That being said, hiring will resume at some point for everyone.
06-27-2024, 03:20 PM
#1775
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 488
Unlike Alaska which has ~100 or so retirees a year, even exclusive of planned growth United, Delta, and American will in total need to hire 1600-1800 pilots a year just to offset age 65 attrition. So yeah, they are halfway through the year and have probably hired a little over half of that number and may have CJOs swimming in the pool for much of the rest of this year, but now that age 67 is out - at least for the immediate future - the demand at all three marches on...
06-27-2024, 03:44 PM
#1776
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Joined APC: Apr 2022
Posts: 1,160
No prob, we are about to "hire" 1176 pilots and their associated unprofitable route structure with a bonus finger of 4 types of 65 airplanes. Half of that flying will be gone, I mean "integrated" (synergized?), in 5 years. Seems clear we are running a surplus of pilots for the forseeable future. The supply/demand curve has inverted. Get used to it.
06-27-2024, 08:50 PM
#1778
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 1,238
American isn't shrinking lol. Their retirements alone are going to dictate picking up hiring before the end of the year big time.
Everyone hired for attrition, and attrition stopped so everyone is temporarily fat. That combined with Boeing deliveries is creating a freeze. Yea it sucks but we will get through it. The shortage is over, it was fixed, and the massive hiring flood isn't going to happen like it did post COVID anytime soon. That being said, hiring will resume at some point for everyone.
Everyone hired for attrition, and attrition stopped so everyone is temporarily fat. That combined with Boeing deliveries is creating a freeze. Yea it sucks but we will get through it. The shortage is over, it was fixed, and the massive hiring flood isn't going to happen like it did post COVID anytime soon. That being said, hiring will resume at some point for everyone.
Uhm wow, very profound…at some point airlines will hire again… really. Yes, and at some point airlines will likely furlough again. I mean this is very deep thought. Let’s give this a minute and let it all sink in…😉😱😂
Last edited by OTZeagle1; 06-27-2024 at 09:19 PM.
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