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Old 04-17-2024, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OTZeagle1
🙄🙄🙄… no one is leaving! And where will they go, when this economy tanks no one will be hiring! I think we slow down, struggle a little, if we struggle a little just think what AAL will do. That place is a house of cards, a Ponzi scheme.
Remember 3 mos ago I told everyone AS was going to shut the door on hiring… remember I said shortly after that everyone would stop hiring, remember the 30 laughing at that… not so funny anymore
I just have to ask, if Alaska's so great why are pilots leaving there to come to AA? Serious question, I'm no longer there, but have friends still flying at AA. They say it's still going downhill, but one told me he's flown with 3 ex ALK and one ex HA and one was an ex captain!!! I think that should red flag an automatic drug test.
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Old 04-17-2024, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthwestAA
I just have to ask, if Alaska's so great why are pilots leaving there to come to AA? Serious question, I'm no longer there, but have friends still flying at AA. They say it's still going downhill, but one told me he's flown with 3 ex ALK and one ex HA and one was an ex captain!!! I think that should red flag an automatic drug test.
We’ve had 0 pilots leave to AA in 2024 and 10 total in 2023.

That’s a red flag? 🫢
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Old 04-17-2024, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthwestAA
I just have to ask, if Alaska's so great why are pilots leaving there to come to AA? Serious question, I'm no longer there, but have friends still flying at AA. They say it's still going downhill, but one told me he's flown with 3 ex ALK and one ex HA and one was an ex captain!!! I think that should red flag an automatic drug test.
I hear those domestic AA schedules are best in the biz! lol 0 left this year 10 last year. Buddys a 🤡
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Old 04-18-2024, 01:59 AM
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We’ve had 0 pilots leave to AA in 2024 and 10 total in 2023.

That’s a red flag? 🫢
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I hear those domestic AA schedules are best in the biz! lol 0 left this year 10 last year. Buddys a 🤡
I think you guys misunderstood what I was saying. The friend at AA said things are still going downhill there at AA. I know after Covid in 20'/21' the West coast widebody flying went in the pooper. When I said drug test I was joking that someone that leaves ALK to AA with several years seniority should be drug tested.
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Old 04-18-2024, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NorthwestAA
I just have to ask, if Alaska's so great why are pilots leaving there to come to AA? Serious question, I'm no longer there, but have friends still flying at AA. They say it's still going downhill, but one told me he's flown with 3 ex ALK and one ex HA and one was an ex captain!!! I think that should red flag an automatic drug test.
We have also had people leave AS who lived in base, to commute at SWA. Pilots are morons. They will leave one company to go fly the exact same airplane at another company while resetting their seniority.


The only red flag is that some pilots are complete morons...
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Old 04-18-2024, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MinRest
We have also had people leave AS who lived in base, to commute at SWA. Pilots are morons. They will leave one company to go fly the exact same airplane at another company while resetting their seniority.


The only red flag is that some pilots are complete morons...
I think most of the folks who left, left before the merger announcement.

If you're 28 y/o, going to UA or DL would be a no-brainer. Long-term. Yeah you might just possibly get furloughed for a few years but long-term still better off.

AA comes with more uncertainty... but if you live in base, or want to, might still make sense if you're young.

The HAL merger throws a wench into the calculus. IF that goes through, and IF management can make it work, then young folks might have good prospects including wibebody ops if they stay. But we're obviously in the cone of confusion on that right now.
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Old 04-18-2024, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I think most of the folks who left, left before the merger announcement.

If you're 28 y/o, going to UA or DL would be a no-brainer. Long-term. Yeah you might just possibly get furloughed for a few years but long-term still better off.

AA comes with more uncertainty... but if you live in base, or want to, might still make sense if you're young.

The HAL merger throws a wench into the calculus. IF that goes through, and IF management can make it work, then young folks might have good prospects including wibebody ops if they stay. But we're obviously in the cone of confusion on that right now.
Lots and lots of ifs in play on the merger.
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Old 04-18-2024, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GoodJet
Lots and lots of ifs in play on the merger.
Yes. But that consumer lawsuit really isn't one of them, that lawyer sues everybody who's merging... "Attorney Seeking Plaintiffs"
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Yes. But that consumer lawsuit really isn't one of them, that lawyer sues everybody who's merging... "Attorney Seeking Plaintiffs"
I'm a lot more concerned with the making it work part.
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Old 04-18-2024, 08:19 AM
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Alaska doesn't bet its business model on maybe...

If anyone thinks that they didn't make absolutely sure this merger is going to go through before pulling the trigger, they are crazy enough to leave for American...
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