Alaska General Discussion
11-03-2023, 03:00 AM
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They may. I can't predict that. Hopefully the pilot group will realize the importance of the trailing line value of 83 hours, the average line value of 85 hours (+2) and bottom 50% of lineholders getting "unstacked". If they don't it will likely mean a lot of work for the reserve pilots, in terms of last minute sick calls. Since those ANC and FAI turns have to go onto somebody's line and they will.
And you think UA, DAL, AA, or WN don’t have stinky redeyes or bunk trips no one wants to fly? Like they just fly on rainbows & unicorns or something? FYI all carriers have um…
11-03-2023, 03:39 AM
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You act like they don’t exist anywhere now though? Like it’s some new boogy man, out to get the bottom of the list. The same groups getting them now will still get them with PBS…nothing changes.
And you think UA, DAL, AA, or WN don’t have stinky redeyes or bunk trips no one wants to fly? Like they just fly on rainbows & unicorns or something? FYI all carriers have um…
And you think UA, DAL, AA, or WN don’t have stinky redeyes or bunk trips no one wants to fly? Like they just fly on rainbows & unicorns or something? FYI all carriers have um…
11-03-2023, 08:24 AM
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You said people will leave Alaska to go to the big 4 because of it. Is it because other airlines don’t have crappy redeyes? Also, who has flown those trips in the past 20 years at Alaska?
11-03-2023, 08:58 AM
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also, when we lost trip touching years ago we essentially have PBS. Just PBS that takes 2 weeks to do all this manually in step trading. This way will be less work and you know your fate earlier. Yes there will be a learning curve. What change doesn’t have one?
all everyone needs to know the that the P in PBS stands for “preferential” not non-preferential. Pit what you want. It prioritizes that over what you don’t want. And if you overload it with what you do and don’t want like a 2 year old, you are not going to be happy with what you get.
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11-03-2023, 03:39 PM
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Street captains are being awarded at UAL so obviously it’s the same dynamic there. The last 20 years these trips have been flown by the most junior pilots on reserve at AS. I just hear a lot of hopes and dreams when it comes to PBS. The average line value was 87 hours for SEA pilots in August, this year. There were a lot of red eyes. Next year will be exactly the same. I’m not the one with unrealistic expectations and I’ll bid accordingly.
11-03-2023, 04:37 PM
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Street captains are being awarded at UAL so obviously it’s the same dynamic there. The last 20 years these trips have been flown by the most junior pilots on reserve at AS. I just hear a lot of hopes and dreams when it comes to PBS. The average line value was 87 hours for SEA pilots in August, this year. There were a lot of red eyes. Next year will be exactly the same. I’m not the one with unrealistic expectations and I’ll bid accordingly.
11-03-2023, 07:36 PM
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I wonder about the guys who left Alaska to go to FedEx. Yikes…..
As I recently communicated, our Flight Operations are significantly overstaffed. Air cargo demand remains down, with decreased revenues and volumes similar to 2019 levels. Consequently, Bid Line Guarantees on most of our fleets are at or near minimums and will probably stay there for the foreseeable future. This low demand is not unique to FedEx but is an industry-wide issue impacting the major cargo carriers. For example, just last week, UPS announced it was revising its annual outlook downward because of the slowing global economy.
As you may have noticed, the passenger industry is not facing the same issues, and those carriers continue to hire pilots at a pace we haven’t seen in recent history with no apparent end in sight.
With that in mind, I want to make you aware of an opportunity that is intended to address the booming demand for passenger carrier pilots and that could help with our overstaffing at the same time. For years, we have had a very good relationship with American Airlines, and they have a healthy respect for the quality of our crew force. In light of their need for additional crew members, they approached us with a unique opportunity for FedEx pilots to be hired via an expedited interview process directly into the Captain seat at their wholly-owned subsidiary, PSA Airlines. The program is available through December 1 and highlights include:
While I understand that this is not something that will appeal to every pilot, for those of you who are frustrated with current flight hours, career progression, or have just been on the fence about available options, you may consider this unique opportunity enough of an incentive to make a move. Frankly, I was pessimistic about how attractive the opportunity might be when first approached, but the details are compelling.
More information can be found here: https://psaairlines.com/fedex-pilots.
I have always been passionate about our pilot hiring process and the selection of crew members for the future of FedEx. I know we have done that well. But sometimes career and family priorities change, and I understand that too. Just the other day, I received an email from a two-year legacy pilot (father flew here) who has made the difficult choice to leave FedEx for a passenger carrier. It was painful to read, but he believes he is making the best decision for his family situation, and I support him wholeheartedly.
A slowing economy, large customer contract negotiations, and slowing pilot retirements with an already overmanned crew force have forced me to accept the fact that I might be seeing more folks that I once personally called to offer a position at FedEx accept offers elsewhere. I have no doubt that FedEx will continue to navigate the turbulent market conditions that are inherent in this business and will remain a great place to work for pilots and others in the long term. That said, I certainly understand if some of you decide that your particular circumstances are leading you to pursue opportunities somewhere else.
As I recently communicated, our Flight Operations are significantly overstaffed. Air cargo demand remains down, with decreased revenues and volumes similar to 2019 levels. Consequently, Bid Line Guarantees on most of our fleets are at or near minimums and will probably stay there for the foreseeable future. This low demand is not unique to FedEx but is an industry-wide issue impacting the major cargo carriers. For example, just last week, UPS announced it was revising its annual outlook downward because of the slowing global economy.
As you may have noticed, the passenger industry is not facing the same issues, and those carriers continue to hire pilots at a pace we haven’t seen in recent history with no apparent end in sight.
With that in mind, I want to make you aware of an opportunity that is intended to address the booming demand for passenger carrier pilots and that could help with our overstaffing at the same time. For years, we have had a very good relationship with American Airlines, and they have a healthy respect for the quality of our crew force. In light of their need for additional crew members, they approached us with a unique opportunity for FedEx pilots to be hired via an expedited interview process directly into the Captain seat at their wholly-owned subsidiary, PSA Airlines. The program is available through December 1 and highlights include:
- A $250,000 signing bonus
- Years of Service credit for Part 121 flying
- Guaranteed flow to American Airlines
While I understand that this is not something that will appeal to every pilot, for those of you who are frustrated with current flight hours, career progression, or have just been on the fence about available options, you may consider this unique opportunity enough of an incentive to make a move. Frankly, I was pessimistic about how attractive the opportunity might be when first approached, but the details are compelling.
More information can be found here: https://psaairlines.com/fedex-pilots.
I have always been passionate about our pilot hiring process and the selection of crew members for the future of FedEx. I know we have done that well. But sometimes career and family priorities change, and I understand that too. Just the other day, I received an email from a two-year legacy pilot (father flew here) who has made the difficult choice to leave FedEx for a passenger carrier. It was painful to read, but he believes he is making the best decision for his family situation, and I support him wholeheartedly.
A slowing economy, large customer contract negotiations, and slowing pilot retirements with an already overmanned crew force have forced me to accept the fact that I might be seeing more folks that I once personally called to offer a position at FedEx accept offers elsewhere. I have no doubt that FedEx will continue to navigate the turbulent market conditions that are inherent in this business and will remain a great place to work for pilots and others in the long term. That said, I certainly understand if some of you decide that your particular circumstances are leading you to pursue opportunities somewhere else.
11-03-2023, 08:02 PM
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