Originally Posted by Mudhen200

Human - Male - Female. Choice has nothing to do with it.
You can cut off your penis, you will still be male. You can cut out your ovaries, you will still be female.
DNA does not change. Your opinion, your desire, your preference, does not matter.

Not recognizing someone's opinion, desire or preference to believe something that is clearly not true is not deliberately attacking them.
It's simply choosing to not participate in a lie. In the long run, you might actually be helping them. Just because you don't like the truth, does not mean that it is not the truth.

The greater mystery is how did a thread about masks in the cockpit get turned into a thread about gender?
I'll come back in a week or two and read all the gnashing of teeth that a simple splash of truth / logic will probably cause on an internet airplane forum.

Originally Posted by All Bizniz

Understandable argument, until we have to acknowledge that hermaphrodites exists, not to mention that there's a spectrum of sexual ambiguity that occurs naturally in animals, humans included.

Unfortunately, not so black and white in some cases..

Originally Posted by flyprdu

"Don't call me sir." Old trying to be young is a tale as old as time.

There are examples of identity bending everywhere. You're just earmarking this one because it's the new hot topic. Like gay marriage was 8 years ago. You still outraged about that? Or have you moved on?

10 years from now you won't give a crap about he/she/they. That's how progress works.

As to ShyGuys pedantry, yes the English language is inadequate at the moment and will have to evolve. Don't worry, the next generation will figure it out.

Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Wow someone is really taking it personal.


So here's the thing. I know a pilot who wrote on an issue related to travel benefits (!) in the Pulse comment section, and was accused by a FA of needing sensitivity training because obviously, that FA did not agree with the viewpoint the pilot had written. The following day that pilot received a phone call from the travel department to clarify the issue, but was advised right at the beginning of the phone call that an individual from HR was also on the line.


That was the last time that pilot ever posted on Pulse.


So say what you want, but the reality remains is that things go good when your opinion matches and is generally accepted by the society where you're located. In the context, it's progressive society.




Another case in point. Years ago, Southwest had a pilot do the G-G-G rant. That was despicable, sure, but I don't think he should have been fired. Get an ass chewing, told to never do it again, apologize to your crew, and get out of the CP office now. Since that happened over 10 yrs ago, it was precisely what happened. In the end he kept his job, had to apologize, etc. If a G-G-G rant happened today, you can bet that pilot would be terminated. It would spread like wild fire on social media and the airline would see no choice but to clean up.



Look at the AA pilot that had a #FJB badge on his bag. A hashtag of three letters, and one pax blasted it on twitter, and AA went into full investigation mode. Would that have POed a Trump type person, say, in DFW? Probably not. But in a place like SFO, LAX, JFK? Probably. Now I will say obviously we all know what FJB means and I am not for that type of language no matter what I feel about the POTUS. Personally, I wouldn't wear that badge on my bag. That said, lets call it for what it is: a political statement. The flip side is, some companies (most companies) have made some political statements "ok" to wear. An example would be BLM. Problem is, that too creates a problem because not everyone supports that. Which goes back to the point, as long as it's accepted by a society at large, then it makes it ok.



I honestly want no part in it. I don't ever plan to wear any political pin, any gender identity pin, badge, sticker, etc. I have just the crew tags on my bags that identify my name and phone #.