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Old 12-28-2021, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Big picture, it is absolutely because of the RLA and seniority system. Kills all leverage and the process drags out for YEARS and we have zero career portability. If I’m mgt, I know you’re too senior to leave, too young to retire now, so you’re stuck here, and the NMB process is just starting and can last years. On a “it’s business, nothing personal” level, why would I put forth any seriousness into negotiations at this moment?
Getting the shot before Christmas eve...

“it’s business, nothing personal."

Why would you want to spend your off time dealing with side effects to a vax you probably didnt even want in the first place? Dont hate the playa hate the game etc etc. They should have deadlined the policy to end before the holidays, poor TEM skills .
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Old 12-28-2021, 12:09 PM
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Getting the shot before Christmas eve...

“it’s business, nothing personal."

Why would you want to spend your off time dealing with side effects to a vax you probably didnt even want in the first place? Dont hate the playa hate the game etc etc. They should have deadlined the policy to end before the holidays, poor TEM skills .
I’m not going to get into the political debate on vaccines. I have plenty to say for someone who’d wait this long until a December to get a vaccine, or the people that have refused it. Not going there.
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Old 12-28-2021, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I’m not going to get into the political debate on vaccines. I have plenty to say for someone who’d wait this long until a December to get a vaccine, or the people that have refused it. Not going there.
Agreed, didn't mean it as an invitation to go there. I just firgured if the individual in question wanted it I assume that person wouldn't have waited until the very end. But you're right, let's not go there.
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Old 12-28-2021, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Agreed, didn't mean it as an invitation to go there. I just firgured if the individual in question wanted it I assume that person wouldn't have waited until the very end. But you're right, let's not go there.
Don’t worry. I knew what you meant. I think most did.
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Old 12-28-2021, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I’m not going to get into the political debate on vaccines. I have plenty to say for someone who’d wait this long until a December to get a vaccine, or the people that have refused it. Not going there.
But you did go there. A little contradictory eh?
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Old 12-28-2021, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Agreed, didn't mean it as an invitation to go there. I just firgured if the individual in question wanted it I assume that person wouldn't have waited until the very end. But you're right, let's not go there.
December is a very reasonable timeline for a booster for someone who got their first shot within the first month after it opened up to everyone.
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Old 12-28-2021, 12:47 PM
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But you did go there. A little contradictory eh?
I didn’t though. Of course there’s plenty to say about it. But there’s no point, so letting it be.
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Old 12-28-2021, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Those airlines did the pay program in Spring time when loads and flights were still down. United’s max pay for a Covid shot was time limited, if you missed the deadline, you got less pay. Let’s not kid ourselves, they would not have pay protected a Christmas Eve and Christmas Day trip.

The guy gamed the system here, they knew what they were doing by taking the shot on day 4 of 4 off, with Christmas Eve and Christmas Day on reserve the next two days that now have to be removed.
Did not work so well for Delta last spring over Easter.
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Old 12-28-2021, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
The guy gamed the system here, they knew what they were doing by taking the shot on day 4 of 4 off, with Christmas Eve and Christmas Day on reserve the next two days that now have to be removed.
And I applaud him for it. He did not violate the contract or company policy. Therefor it is a completely legitimate action. He found a loophole simple as that. People use known loopholes every day at AS. This is no different.
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And I applaud him for it. He did not violate the contract or company policy. Therefor it is a completely legitimate action. He found a loophole simple as that. People use known loopholes every day at AS. This is no different.

It’s strange how pilots brag about using loopholes in the contract and our bidding system and then say this would upset them as an employer.


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