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Old 12-12-2021, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ImperialxRat
Our first new hire class since the pandemic was October of this year, so can’t really answer your question. Also would be base specific.

I think a better question is how long should one expect to be on reserve as a captain. Provided you take the first available


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Old 12-12-2021, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetlikespeed
What’s current reserve times looking like Boeing and the bus
at Bases where new hires are going… usually LA and SEA, expect 3-6 months on reserve if hiring continues. But that can all change when other things that can change change. Then it can all change back if something unexpected changes.
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Old 12-12-2021, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01
I think a better question is how long should one expect to be on reserve as a captain. Provided you take the first available


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7-8 years would be my guess. That’s why the left seat is relatively junior, everyone knows how bad reserve is here.
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Old 12-12-2021, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by flysnoopy76
7-8 years would be my guess. That’s why the left seat is relatively junior, everyone knows how bad reserve is here.
but we have 4.5 year upgrades!!!! We are a growth airline!!!!! In reality if we had no by passers (or the normal amount of around 10%) the true upgrade time would likely be around 8 years (around 1700 seniority). I agree if you were one of the guys who took upgrade and your more junior then 2100 then I think 8 years at a minimum, possibly 10.
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I’ve been bidding first available but I’m not so sure for the next one. Friends have described life as a jr captain and it just sounds so brutal.


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Old 12-12-2021, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
By whom? JL?

This is part of the problem with the prediction rumor mill. Some people think it's official.

Echelon wants us to take OTZ's opinion as if he's just some anonymous internet crank. But it all honesty, people treat him here like he's some freaking oracle.


He's not. He's gotten more wrong than right. And all his "news" is doom and gloom for anyone on the Airbus side. It's deliberate.
You guys are still soaking up OZey's BS??? C'mon, he's a poor Skywest captain wearing a Rolex.
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Old 12-12-2021, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01
I think a better question is how long should one expect to be on reserve as a captain. Provided you take the first available


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Are you complaining about how a long a guy might be reserve as a Capt when one holds it at 83% system seniority?

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Are you complaining about how a long a guy might be reserve as a Capt when one can hold it at 83% system seniority?

It’s a good thing for people to know if they are also applying to real airlines with real growth. You know if one is considering AS as a place of employment. There is no growth. So as a prospective new hire, one may be interested to know they are basically waiting on retirements to move up a spot. Which is caused by lack of scope.

Or maybe your Stockholm Syndrome is showing so badly that you’ll just jump all over anyone who says something truthful about your place of employment.


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Old 12-12-2021, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Are you complaining about how a long a guy might be reserve as a Capt when one holds it at 83% system seniority?

Grain of truth here... if you need the money more than QOL, and live in base it's an option.

But how long to hold 73 CA at UA, etc. How long to get off reserve? Maybe not too long, even on the west coast.
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Originally Posted by NewGuy01
It’s a good thing for people to know if they are also applying to real airlines with real growth. You know if one is considering AS as a place of employment. There is no growth. So as a prospective new hire, one may be interested to know they are basically waiting on retirements to move up a spot. Which is caused by lack of scope.

Or maybe your Stockholm Syndrome is showing so badly that you’ll just jump all over anyone who says something truthful about your place of employment.


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Nah. I think people are educated enough about the major airline they are applying to. Jump all over? You took a big jab at our training department folks with complete fake news about massive failures. You’re too bitter about this place. Everyone else is hiring, why not leave?
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