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Old 08-08-2019, 01:09 PM
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I didn’t sell my house, got a property manager and rented it out. I left with the NY base closure and moved to LA county with the wife and young kids. It’s not worth commuting to reserve at this place. Everyone knows the contract sucks but at this point both here and Alyeska, it seems quite a few VX guys are complaining just for the sake of complaining. The hatred of the 737 and the “proudly all Boeing” sticker is a prime example.
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Old 08-08-2019, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I didn’t sell my house, got a property manager and rented it out. I left with the NY base closure and moved to LA county with the wife and young kids. It’s not worth commuting to reserve at this place. Everyone knows the contract sucks but at this point both here and Alyeska, it seems quite a few VX guys are complaining just for the sake of complaining. The hatred of the 737 and the “proudly all Boeing” sticker is a prime example.
Seriously. I wonder if SW pilots complain about the 737 as much as some here? Some folks have their priorities all mixed up. Who cares which narrow body A/C we fly? We’re not cutting the checks for the planes and we have no say in the matter so why the bi+chin n moanin? Last I checked they pay the same.
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:34 PM
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Yes, they do.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock
Seriously. I wonder if SW pilots complain about the 737 as much as some here? Some folks have their priorities all mixed up. Who cares which narrow body A/C we fly? We’re not cutting the checks for the planes and we have no say in the matter so why the bi+chin n moanin? Last I checked they pay the same.
Talk to anybody who's been around the legacies for a while, they'll give you an earful about the 73 because they have plenty of things to compare it to.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:49 PM
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Does the bus do many redeyes out of LAX or SFO?
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Old 08-09-2019, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Work4life
I was on reserve in SEA and I flew a lot, almost hitting the monthly max during peak travel seasons. It seemed like LAX FOs on reserve didn’t fly as much as SEA. Expect to be abused and violated by crew scheduling. I still have friends at Alaska, most of them either waiting for a class at the big 3 or actively updating their apps. I sincerely hope your honeymoon period outlasts your disgust for Alaska. Their contract, especially work rules, are decades behind that of any legacy/major airline. I hear the regionals have much better work rules. Crew scheduling will lie and violate the contract on a whim to move their iron and the union, more specifically, the contract compliance team who is in bed with the company will not have your back. You’ll see.
Not a more true statement on a message board, just ask a grievance committee member. Anyone on here complaining about being violated should be talking to their reps. We’re the union, committee and committee members should be replaced if they are not doing what’s best for the pilots.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:06 AM
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Not a more true statement on a message board, just ask a grievance committee member. Anyone on here complaining about being violated should be talking to their reps. We’re the union, committee and committee members should be replaced if they are not doing what’s best for the pilots.
The union, in general, has a bunch of hard working, great people. However, many of the important committees have people who have either been immersed in the Alaska "culture" for too long or they forget why they volunteered in the first place.

Contract compliance does a great job but they spend too much time talking to management and sometimes forget how bad some of the CBA language is. From my experience, they definitely have the pilots' backs but their perspective can be skewed which can be infuriating. Anyone who is not happy with Compliance's answer can always grieve it and they will often win.
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Old 08-14-2019, 06:26 AM
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you can point fingers...union...management...logo...737...thruth is... IT ALL SUCKS!

just put this on the plane: "Proudly Blowing Boeing" and be done with it.

for the young pilots looking to come here...if you already live in the god forsaken and beloved PNW...and love the smell of fish on your hands...then by golly come on! because we need you... pilots are bailing from this place like rats out of downtown Baltimore...
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