Alaska slowing growth...
06-30-2018, 08:08 PM
#101
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Wonder what three airlines would be interested with a market cap of over 7 billion. SWA and American make sense I guess. There is also the very small possibility of a non airline buyout like Warren Buffett or Amazon. Amazon bought Whole Foods last year out of the blue. Flying their employees around out of SEA and HQ2 and/or getting an airline certificate and growing the cargo side? Stranger things have happened like drone delivery plans.
07-01-2018, 02:51 PM
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I seriously doubt they'd spend $7B to save a buck moving employees around. Even at a ridiculous price of $1000 a ticket, they could buy 7 million tickets with that kind of money. I can't imagine that they would move that many people in 100 years. And if they want an airline certificate for their cargo operation, they could spend a lot less to acquire one of the companies they're already using, where they have warrants for a significant fraction of the stock of those companies.
07-01-2018, 07:18 PM
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Wonder what three airlines would be interested with a market cap of over 7 billion. SWA and American make sense I guess. There is also the very small possibility of a non airline buyout like Warren Buffett or Amazon. Amazon bought Whole Foods last year out of the blue. Flying their employees around out of SEA and HQ2 and/or getting an airline certificate and growing the cargo side? Stranger things have happened like drone delivery plans.
Amazon just made a big entry into online pharmacy through a purchase. It would not be beyond imagining for them to buy Alaska - or even just Horizon - and sell tickets just online. Nor would scope be an issue for them. I could see them partnering up with EmbraerBoeing or BombardierAirbus and running jumbo RJ routes the length and breadth of the continental US. for both pax and cargo.
07-01-2018, 07:33 PM
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Wonder what three airlines would be interested with a market cap of over 7 billion. SWA and American make sense I guess. There is also the very small possibility of a non airline buyout like Warren Buffett or Amazon. Amazon bought Whole Foods last year out of the blue. Flying their employees around out of SEA and HQ2 and/or getting an airline certificate and growing the cargo side? Stranger things have happened like drone delivery plans.
07-01-2018, 07:50 PM
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I really wonder what the draw is for anyone wanting to come to this place. Numbers don't lie. ~2,950 pilot group with ~625 retirements combined for 10 yrs from 2018-2027. Assuming you start now as #2950, 10 yrs later you'd be about 2,300. Out of how many pilots by then? Who knows, but there are plenty of old sayings like "2000 pilots by 2000." Best guess is in 10 yrs this group may be 3,500-4000 pilots and that's being generous. 2,300 out of ~3750? That's 61% overall and barely CA and that's if you're lucky. If you come you'll be a FO for a Long time and I do mean Long with a capital L. Or you can look at AA, DL, and UAs retirement numbers for the next 10 yrs and make an informed decision.
The only thing that would change the above is another merger/acquisition.
The only thing that would change the above is another merger/acquisition.
07-01-2018, 11:41 PM
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07-02-2018, 01:21 PM
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07-02-2018, 02:01 PM
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Too many around here assume that the phones are ringing off the hook from the big 4 with just putting an app in. It comes in handy to try to persuade others not to go to AS with this rhetoric, but pretty unrealistic to expect someone to pass “because the big 4 are right there waitin for me”...
It just doesn’t work that way.
07-02-2018, 02:24 PM
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This ^^^^^
Too many around here assume that the phones are ringing off the hook from the big 4 with just putting an app in. It comes in handy to try to persuade others not to go to AS with this rhetoric, but pretty unrealistic to expect someone to pass “because the big 4 are right there waitin for me”...
It just doesn’t work that way.
Too many around here assume that the phones are ringing off the hook from the big 4 with just putting an app in. It comes in handy to try to persuade others not to go to AS with this rhetoric, but pretty unrealistic to expect someone to pass “because the big 4 are right there waitin for me”...
It just doesn’t work that way.
Hang out here and make $90/126/hr instead of $70/hr at a regional? Sure. Stay here with no scope or mainline growth and garbage scheduling if someone else calls? Yeah, it's gonna be a no for me dawg.
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