Yikes...
03-15-2018, 06:21 AM
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Airline pilots commit suicide unexpectedly too, certainly each and every one a first event of its kind...
03-15-2018, 07:23 AM
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And suicide, obviously, is a VERY different mental issue and honestly a terrible analogy.
03-15-2018, 07:31 AM
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03-15-2018, 08:27 AM
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Not with this guy....I've know him for a long time. Not in his DNA at all. Were they together in the same room, maybe? But there's no way he drugged her. Sounds like a case of, 'What did I just do?' No drug test or police report? Sounds like a case of what just happened.
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Nor does the fact that a company FA called this in as a potential problem make this look like some sort of morning after remorse or misunderstanding. And realistically, in this day and age, what sort of a person would take a risk like this, going to bed with a subordinate they scarcely knew? Military generals have been demoted and forced to retire for less. Should a senior pilot think it's going to be any different for him once this became public? Where was HIS judgment?
03-15-2018, 08:36 AM
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You're right, there is a first time for everything. Statistically though, a first time offender isn't brazen or prepared enough to bring roofies to the bar knowing he's going to spike his FOs drink. That kind of bold behavior is learned over many attempts. Statistically speaking.
And suicide, obviously, is a VERY different mental issue and honestly a terrible analogy.
And suicide, obviously, is a VERY different mental issue and honestly a terrible analogy.
And I disagree, suicide is a very apropos analogy. Do you seriously think this guy's professional career is going to recover from this? Or quite possibly his marriage? Even if it is viewed in the most favorable manner possible, this was exceedingly reckless behavior on the part if the captain. And whatever the odds were statistically of this blowing up in his face, it has certainly happened.
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03-15-2018, 09:04 AM
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What you are saying is that statistically, most people who do this get away with their initial attempts and only eventually do the odds catch up with them, not that this is statistically improbable that it happens at all. That's a different logical argument.
And I disagree, suicide is a very apropos analogy. Do you seriously think this guy's professional career is going to recover from this? Or quite possibly his marriage? Even if it is viewed in the most favorable manner possible, this was exceedingly reckless behavior on the part if the captain. And whatever the odds were statistically of this blowing up in his face, it has certainly happened.
And I disagree, suicide is a very apropos analogy. Do you seriously think this guy's professional career is going to recover from this? Or quite possibly his marriage? Even if it is viewed in the most favorable manner possible, this was exceedingly reckless behavior on the part if the captain. And whatever the odds were statistically of this blowing up in his face, it has certainly happened.
I'm not talking about getting caught first time. I'm saying that most offenders like this don't start out with "you know what, I've been faithful my whole life, so today I'm going to drug my coworker on a short overnight and have my way with her." That isn't how that psychopathy works. This is especially true considering most predators start their behavior in their teens and early 20s. The only reason he was caught this time was because a FA reported him to the duty pilot in a chance encounter. If this were a simple he-said, she-said, the circumstances might be different but there are a lot of very concerning red flags about this situation and all of them point to habitual behavior.
03-15-2018, 09:20 AM
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Not with this guy....I've know him for a long time. Not in his DNA at all. Were they together in the same room, maybe? But there's no way he drugged her. Sounds like a case of, 'What did I just do?' No drug test or police report? Sounds like a case of what just happened.
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Sounds like your boy is a rapist, unless you’re calling the FOs lawyer a liar. At the very least you can bet his marriage is probably over.
03-15-2018, 09:29 AM
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