Yikes...
03-20-2018, 02:43 PM
#401
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Well they hired outside counsel, who is an African American female, has 25 years of experience in employment law, investigating diversity issues, discrimination, workplace harassment and violence, and wrote Boeings diversity program. I don't think she is going to risk her reputation for Alaska or anyone else. So yes, that is about as impartial as you are going to get.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
03-20-2018, 02:58 PM
#402
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If the information gathered by said outside counsel is accurate, as stated in the Seattle Times article, she didn’t whitewash it. She was not going to prosecute the case, so fact finding and recommendations to the company was the extent of it. The outside counsel is just that, counsel; it was up to AK to act on the case. They apparently felt there was t enough to start termination on the captain; they had given the F/O clearance back to work. End of story until F/O says, “whoa, he’s still here!”. I’m not putting up with that, wait for my lawyer.
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03-20-2018, 03:13 PM
#403
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You weren't just arguing benzodiazepines, you were arguing:
"Statistically, the chances of her story being true are extremely remote."
And you come up with THIS reference to say that? It is an article with NO INCIDENCE OR PREVALENCE DATA WHATSOEVER regarding the OCCURENCE of the condition itself? It is an assessment of the relative frequencies of laboratory reports without any normalizing for population or any other ramdomizing factor.
This is a classic "look what I found" article for the Journal of Irreproducible Results, and has no statistical validity whatsoever, even for the question it purports to deal with, and even less (if possible) for assessing the veracity of the flight officer's claims.
Have you ever HAD a probability and statistics course?
"Statistically, the chances of her story being true are extremely remote."
And you come up with THIS reference to say that? It is an article with NO INCIDENCE OR PREVALENCE DATA WHATSOEVER regarding the OCCURENCE of the condition itself? It is an assessment of the relative frequencies of laboratory reports without any normalizing for population or any other ramdomizing factor.
This is a classic "look what I found" article for the Journal of Irreproducible Results, and has no statistical validity whatsoever, even for the question it purports to deal with, and even less (if possible) for assessing the veracity of the flight officer's claims.
Have you ever HAD a probability and statistics course?
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03-20-2018, 03:17 PM
#404
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I just read the document and there are so many holes and unanswered questions not to mention that it looks like it was written by a middle schooler. It started making more sense when I read that her lawyer was a dropout in the ninth grade and has a reputation for unethical practices.
03-20-2018, 03:32 PM
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If the information gathered by said outside counsel is accurate, as stated in the Seattle Times article, she didn’t whitewash it. She was not going to prosecute the case, so fact finding and recommendations to the company was the extent of it. The outside counsel is just that, counsel; it was up to AK to act on the case. They apparently felt there was t enough to start termination on the captain; they had given the F/O clearance back to work. End of story until F/O says, “whoa, he’s still here!”. I’m not putting up with that, wait for my lawyer.
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03-20-2018, 03:34 PM
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Thanks for the link.
I just read the document and there are so many holes and unanswered questions not to mention that it looks like it was written by a middle schooler. It started making more sense when I read that her lawyer was a dropout in the ninth grade and has a reputation for unethical practices.
I just read the document and there are so many holes and unanswered questions not to mention that it looks like it was written by a middle schooler. It started making more sense when I read that her lawyer was a dropout in the ninth grade and has a reputation for unethical practices.
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03-20-2018, 03:36 PM
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I don't know why you keep bringing up "Jungle". As an outsider reading your posts, they make very little sense.
03-20-2018, 03:37 PM
#408
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I’m confused all around. Statistically unlikely is not a term really used it statistics. Statistical significance is something that statistics test for. What are we testing? What is the null hypothesis? The study posted wasn’t trying to state the majority of women who claimed to be drugged and raped aren’t drugged at all. It also wasn’t hypothesizing that the majority of women who are drugged and raped are done so with one particular drug over another. It was just a random sample. No statistical test was used on the data except converting the occurrences to percentages. This is getting way too nerdy.
03-20-2018, 03:41 PM
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The reason you hire outside counsel is to make sure something like this is not whitewashed. She has the obligation not to talk to anyone outside Alaska about the report, but if you read anything about this lady, whitewash is the last thing she would be associated with. In Trumps' terms, she's a killer and has a rep for it. I guarantee you she told Alaska everything she found. In today's environment, companies have to be very careful about this stuff. I guarantee Alaska has dotted the i's and crossed all the t's on this. Their hiring of this attorney tells you that. If this attorney found evidence of assault, drugging, and rape this Captain would be gone simply because from the companies standpoint, all the bad publicity, suits, and grief just aren't worth it anymore. Far easier just to be rid of the problem (in this case the Captain).
03-20-2018, 03:43 PM
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Well when you read his background, he never went to any law school, basically apprenticed to become a lawyer (referred to as reading the law). Kinda surprised they still allow that. Had a great uncle that did that 80 years ago, but most states don't allow it anymore. You have to go to an ABA accredited school to pass the bar.
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