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03-20-2018, 12:58 PM

#391

Excargodog

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mesabah

https://academic.oup.com/jat/article/23/3/141/726098

The reason I was arguing benzodiazepines, simply because it was statistically most likely, and the initial effects she described were most similar. For all I know the captain could have spent years researching, and came up with the perfect concoction of drugs to be undetectable.

You weren't just arguing benzodiazepines, you were arguing:

"Statistically, the chances of her story being true are extremely remote."

And you come up with THIS reference to say that? It is an article with NO INCIDENCE OR PREVALENCE DATA WHATSOEVER regarding the OCCURENCE of the condition itself? It is an assessment of the relative frequencies of laboratory reports without any normalizing for population or any other ramdomizing factor.

This is a classic "look what I found" article for the Journal of Irreproducible Results, and has no statistical validity whatsoever, even for the question it purports to deal with, and even less (if possible) for assessing the veracity of the flight officer's claims.

Have you ever HAD a probability and statistics course?

03-20-2018, 01:03 PM

#392

Excargodog

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Originally Posted by Slayer1234

I think he is referring to the fact that women who have reported be drugged and raped in most cases when a toxicological test is ran they come back clean or only with alcohol.

Not what he's saying. He's saying that the chances of what she said being true is statistically remote without providing any meaningful evidence that that is the case. I would presume in your airline the incidence of flight attendants calling the company to report incapacitated pilot(s) is rather low, but it certainly happened in this case.

If he is going to use terms like "statistically unlikely" he should at least have a nodding acquaintance with their PROPER use.

03-20-2018, 01:07 PM

#393

Excargodog

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER

Bahahahahahaha!!!! What a riot. So we go from hanging out with the crew for a few drinks and laughs to you insinuating that it leads to automatic rape and rueffing?! YHGTBSM!

Remove the stick from your ass SSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWWLLY!

Wow. Clearly must if hit you close to home on that one. Lots of vituperation but no denial - or even yes-no answer.

03-20-2018, 01:22 PM

#394

WHACKMASTER

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Excargodog

Wow. Clearly must if hit you close to home on that one. Lots of vituperation but no denial - or even yes-no answer.

Fail.......

03-20-2018, 01:34 PM

#395

CBreezy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Excargodog

You weren't just arguing benzodiazepines, you were arguing:

Have you ever HAD a probability and statistics course?

I'm going to go with no...no he did not.

03-20-2018, 01:40 PM

#396

Mesabah

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CBreezy

I'm going to go with no...no he did not.

Actually, graduate level engineering statistics from a top university. I also do programming in R.

03-20-2018, 01:41 PM

#397

FlyingKat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Packrat

You don't know Alaska if you think an Alaska investigation ON ANY TOPIC is impartial. They only seek to protect Alaska and their precious image. Anyone or anything that violates that prime directive is expendable.

Well they hired outside counsel, who is an African American female, has 25 years of experience in employment law, investigating diversity issues, discrimination, workplace harassment and violence, and wrote Boeings diversity program. I don't think she is going to risk her reputation for Alaska or anyone else. So yes, that is about as impartial as you are going to get.

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