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Old 03-19-2018, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
First of all, 10 mg per day equates to LESS THAN a half mg per hour, not 20mg per SHOT. And even that was only the first study.

The second part of that was people who were routinely prescribed Xanax at typical (and much smaller) dosages.

Look at the individual risk factors she had. She was female, which tripled her risk compared to a male. She had ostensibly just started it, which put her at the highest risk timeline. And she was over thirty, putting her in an age group more likely to have vomiting as a side effect.

Notwithstanding your apparent extensive experience at binge drinking and puking which you seem quite proud of, you seem to lack even a basic understanding of pharmacology.

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Once again, alprazolam(xanax) comes in 0.5mg or 0.25mg quick dissolve tables. That's 20 to 40 tablets to cause severe vomiting the FO described. Do you really think this captain dumped an entire bottle of pills into a glass of wine without anyone noticing? I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just not logical. There is no evidence here for a criminal trial, her story seems highly unlikely, and she has every motive to lie too.
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Once again, alprazolam(xanax) comes in 0.5mg or 0.25mg quick dissolve tables. That's 20 to 40 tablets to cause severe vomiting the FO described. Do you really think this captain dumped an entire bottle of pills into a glass of wine without anyone noticing? I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just not logical. There is no evidence here for a criminal trial, her story seems highly unlikely, and she has every motive to lie too.
Wow, so you know what drug was used? You probably ought to go to the police, or at least talk to her lawyer, seeing as you have so much inside knowledge.
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Once again, alprazolam(xanax) comes in 0.5mg or 0.25mg quick dissolve tables. That's 20 to 40 tablets to cause severe vomiting the FO described. Do you really think this captain dumped an entire bottle of pills into a glass of wine without anyone noticing? I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just not logical. There is no evidence here for a criminal trial, her story seems highly unlikely, and she has every motive to lie too.

No. That's a concentration of LESS THAN 0.5 mg per hour to cause those symptoms. 10 mg per day divided by 24 is 0.412 mg per hour. That's less than a single tablet. This isn't rocket science here, do try to keep up.
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Old 03-19-2018, 10:46 PM
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Is anyone else here hoping both of these pilots have lots of community volunteer hours so Alaska HR may finally stop requiring pilots applicants to have volunteer hours?
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Old 03-20-2018, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RomeoJulietLima
Alaska Airlines pilot accused of rape grounded as shocking details emerge, outcry grows | Fox News

Come on guys, he did it. It happened at my home. Jungle did know it. And yes, there is a police report. I was drugged in Alaska October 2016. I filed a police report. I was raped. Guess what it came down to he said, she said. There are addresses, legal reports I was assaulted.
I will never forget the letter from the governor how my case was basically been put to bed.
Jungle knew it. I worked 15 yrs for FedEx I would never have pulled that crap on a pilot who was upstanding.

I know what is consent and what's not..

She did not give consent..
Just to clarify it was not Jungle, it happen between a coworker I worked with not connected to the airlines. But it happens . We were not romantically involved at all. We worked 3 yrs together no romantic connection at all. He fixed on me, and saw G was out of town.

It was pretty bad
She did not deserve it. I honestly feel for her because I know what is like to live with a pilot who blames you. I did everything and I believe she did also.
The co pilot did nothing wrong,
Thanks for the insight, since it happened to you it must have happened to the FO here as well. Why even have a trial, let's just jail every man accused of putting a roofie in somebody's drink, it happened to you after all.
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Old 03-20-2018, 03:48 AM
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The lack of reading comprehension is shocking on this thread.
She woke up in HIS room, not her own.
It was the lawyer hired by the airline to investigate that said there is video evidence of him trying to forcibly kiss her in the elevator, and her fighting him for 18-20 minutes to get her to his room.
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Old 03-20-2018, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RomeoJulietLima
Dude, you are missing the point women don't even know when we are being roffied. We have no idea it's happening to us. We wake up confused and unsure! We don't know what happened.. we wait to figure it out especially if your logical. I did the wiretap. The guy said how much he was into me. I was living with Jungle.
I know this because I did it
Jungle knew what happened, I am not the girl who did bars or even went out.. Again it was devastating to us. It did take me 36 hrs to report it. I get it. I know exactly what happened to me.
I'm not missing any points. You said without any doubt that the captain did it. The evidence in the media looks very convincing, I agree. But 100% of the evidence has been put forth by the accuser so of course it is going to look convincing. He cannot defend himself in public, so I'll reserve judgement until the case is settled in court. We have 2 people: 1 is a monster and 1 is the victim of a terrible crime, I just don't know which is which and neither do you despite your personal experience.

You have pre-convicted every man accused of this crime. That is the point, the one you seem to have missed previously.
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:52 AM
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There’s no way she can return to line flying after this. She’ll always be “that girl” unfortunately.

If this is true she needs at least a few million in lost wages so she never has to step foot in a cockpit there again. Talk about a hostile work environment.

If she is lying (doubtful) then still no way she can fly there again.
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
No. That's a concentration of LESS THAN 0.5 mg per hour to cause those symptoms. 10 mg per day divided by 24 is 0.412 mg per hour. That's less than a single tablet. This isn't rocket science here, do try to keep up.
Drugs have an initial concentration, peak, then a half life, they are not administered per hour. Also, strangely, the incidence of vomiting was significantly higher in the placebo, in the UpJohn study. https://www.rxlist.com/xanax-drug.ht...s_interactions
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Old 03-20-2018, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
Wow, so you know what drug was used? You probably ought to go to the police, or at least talk to her lawyer, seeing as you have so much inside knowledge.
No bus, the exact opposite, I'm saying it was highly unlikely a drug was used given her statements. It sounds like just plain alcohol.
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