FlyingKat

Good point. The only time I ever heard of someone getting called in on a layover they had someone there within an hour to test them. And this was at a cheap @ss regional. I would think Alaska would probably be able to pull off something a regional can. Once again you don't know because you are only getting one side of this, and this could be answered by the Alaska report.

FlyingKat

But they can also test for alcohol consumption.

Excargodog

OF COURSE these are known side effects of benzodiazepines. Do a little research before you play online pharmacologist:


Medical Editor: John P. Cunha, DO, FACOEP

Last reviewed on RxList 03/17/2017
Xanax (alprazolam) is a benzodiazepine used as an anti-anxiety medication prescribed to treat panic attacks and anxiety disorders. Xanax is available in generic form. Common side effects of Xanax include:

Drowsiness
Tiredness
Dizziness
Sleep problems (insomnia)
Memory problems
Poor balance or coordination
Slurred speech
Trouble concentrating
Irritability
Diarrhea
Constipation
Increased sweating
Headache
Nausea
Vomiting
Upset stomach
Blurred vision
Appetite or weight changes
Swelling in your hands or feet
Muscle weakness
Dry mouth
Stuffy nose

From a recent study:

On Feb, 20, 2018
84,702 people reported to have side effects when taking Xanax.
Among them, 4,890 people (5.77%) have Vomiting

Number of reports submitted per year:

Could Xanax cause Vomiting?
Time on Xanax when people have Vomiting *:

< 1 month: 46.15 %
1 - 6 months: 12.82 %
6 - 12 months: 3.85 %
1 - 2 years: 6.41 %
2 - 5 years: 23.08 %
5 - 10 years: 2.56 %
10+ years: 5.13 %
Gender of people who have Vomiting when taking Xanax *:

female: 74.28 %
male: 25.72 %
Age of people who have Vomiting when taking Xanax *:

0-1: 0.05 %
2-9: 0.07 %
10-19: 1.1 %
20-29: 7.56 %
30-39: 12.65 %
40-49: 23.11 %
50-59: 24.06 %
60+: 31.4 %

Excargodog

Sure can, but the issue was whether or not the DOT test could have detected a date rape drug. It almost certainly WOULD NOT have done so.

FlyingKat

But it would indicate if she was suffering from alcohol intoxication.

Excargodog

It would indicate whether she had INGESTED alcohol and was potentially in violation of the rules. The degree of actual intoxication would depend upon her tolerance.

EskimoJoe

Strictly referring only to the drugging allegations, Does it really make any sense the a Captain would just carry around "date rape" drugs with him waiting for the perfect opportunity to use them? Is the perfect opportunity to lace his 39 year old retired military FO's (whom he's never met) drink in the concierge room of the hotel in the presence of other crew members?

There's not enough local bar fly's, or other random women to attempt this on? Women that would have no idea who he is or where to find him? He does this to his F.O.? He's willing to expose himself to a potential attempted murder charge, rape charges, end his career, and face a very long prison sentence because this concierge room scenario with his F.O. is the perfect situation he's been waiting for? He's willing to gamble that she's just going to blow it off and finish the trip as normal?

It's either this scenario or she got herself absurdly drunk on an overnight. I've known a few raging alcoholics. One of them died at 42YO. Some people simply cannot control it once they go down that path. I have no idea what happened here, but there's really only two scenarios one has to choose from. One of them is decidedly more far fetched than the other.

rickair7777

No. They never reported for flight duty. The only rule that was even potentially in play was the company 10-hour rule.

rickair7777

What he said.

Now if the samples taken from such a probable-cause DOT test still existed, they could potentially be tested later for other things (no idea what DOT policy is on retention). But as someone pointed out, roofies have a short metabolic half-life... might have been gone by dawn.

Slayer1234

Actually some benzodiazepines like Valium and xanax do have the side effect of vomiting. Ghb also has this side effect. Where in her statement did it say she was throwing up the next day. Everything I’ve read never mentioned this. Only that she woke up with vomit everywhere. Is it likely she was drugged? Probably not. Is it out of the realm of possibility? No. You or me can not say with absolute certainty that she wasn’t drugged unless there was an extensive toxicology report done. And from what I read that never happened so we will never know. In the end it dosnt matter if it was drugs or just alcohol. If she was so impaired to not be able to give consent it could be rape, but that’s all up to the authorities and or courts to decide.