SpeedyVagabond

It’s just hilarious isn’t it?

Mesabah

There is no physical evidence in this case. That's the entire point. She is suing Alaska based of a set of he said, she said. There are no criminal charges against the captain. Is her story plausible, hell no. Did she get drunk, and the captain take advantage of her, probably, but drugging her takes it to a whole new level, and there is no evidence at all of that. The only thing to go on is well known drug effects described in medical reference manuals, which I did.



What about her age relates anything to drinking tolerance.

Slayer1234

There way to much human variability to say everyone reacts to a certain dosage of a drug or combination of drugs the same way. Some people take ambien and end up sleep driving. My wife is an epileptic and was on a medication that if she had two glasses of wine she wouldn’t remember most of what happen afterwards. And even if it is textbook alcohol poisoning does someone in that condition have the ability to consent to sex? Consent laws very from state to state and have a lot of grey areas. I don’t know which side to believe, but if there is indeed video showing a impaired woman trying to fight off a sexual advance then it’s not looking to good for this guy and Alaska’s response to this matter.

Slayer1234

[QUOTE=Mesabah;2553890]Given her statement, she is describing the effects of multiple drugs, or just simply heavy drinking. That's why, I don't believe she just had two glasses of wine as she states. GHB causes you to lose inhibitions then pass out. She describes in her statement as having immediate drowsiness, which would indicate Xanax, or Valium. If she was drugged with Quaaludes, she would not have made it back to her room on her own at 2:46 am, as the statement says. She would not have unconscious vomiting as described with any of the drugs, and two glasses of wine.



What she is describing is textbook alcohol poisoning

There way to much human variability to say everyone reacts to a certain dosage of a drug or combination of drugs the same way. Some people take ambien and end up sleep driving. My wife is an epileptic and was on a medication that if she had two glasses of wine she wouldn’t remember most of what happen afterwards. And even if it is textbook alcohol poisoning does someone in that condition have the ability to consent to sex? Consent laws very from state to state and have a lot of grey areas. I don’t know which side to believe, but if there is indeed video showing a impaired woman trying to fight off a sexual advance then it’s not looking to good for this guy and Alaska’s response to this matter.

Packrat

Because it was an issue between two employees and they thought they could keep it out of the press. As long as its "in house" HR was convinced they could cover it up.

Different story when outside folks are involved. I know a guy who was fired from AS because he made off-color remarks to a female taxi driver and she complained to the Company.

The reason Ms. Pina is torqued is that AS tried to sweep it under the rug and allowed the Capt. to keep working for 8 months. Now that the story is public, he got suspended. If, in fact, he does get fired it will be because of the publicity. AS is VERY protective of their image. Often more protective of their image than their employees.

Slayer1234

There way to much human variability to say everyone reacts to a certain dosage of a drug or combination of drugs the same way. Some people take ambien and end up sleep driving. My wife is an epileptic and was on a medication that if she had two glasses of wine she wouldn’t remember most of what happen afterwards. And even if it is textbook alcohol poisoning does someone in that condition have the ability to consent to sex? Consent laws very from state to state and have a lot of grey areas. I don’t know which side to believe, but if there is indeed video showing a impaired woman trying to fight off a sexual advance then it’s not looking to good for this guy and Alaska’s response to this matter.

rickair7777

She was military, she knows her own tolerance. Anyone with a military background would find it implausible that she doesn't.

Han Solo

That is a stupid statement. I'm sure the % of people in the military with a drinking problem is similar to that on the outside. People with drinking problems don't rationally think about the consequences of their actions, they just need another drink. I'm not saying the Alaska pilots had a problem or they didn't, but your cart blanche statement doesn't hold water.

Mesabah

I'm not saying the captain didn't rape her, I'm saying, I don't believe he drugged her, because the symptoms she is describing are atypical of two glasses of wine + whatever drug is common in date rape. If he shot her up with Heroine, then obviously that would be very believable given what she is describing. In college, many of my friends would take Valium with drinks to sleep hard before an exam, then pop adderall in the morning.

rickair7777

Professional drunks learn to be pretty stealthy, ie hide their condition, not file very public lawsuits. Wherever on the spectrum she falls between light social drinker and addict, she should knowhow to handle herself by now. It's teenage coeds who are prone to have buyers remorse and scream rape so they can blame someone other than themselves (not excusing frat boys who systematically enable that scenario).

Sure vets are almost certainly more prone to substance issues than others. But the lawsuit makes no sense in that context.