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Old 03-18-2018, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LNL76
My comments weren't directed at you since you are one of the more rational ones here

Do you guys think you have any idea of the creeps in your ranks? With all due respect, you can't and you don't.
Rational?! Me?! Bahahahahaha! Go tell that to the folks in the SWA forum.

Anyway, yes I do. There’s plenty of shady attempts on FAs from our ranks I’m sure. No, I can’t possibly begin to know what a good-looking FA goes through during the course of a trip. The persistent swinging d!ck$ probably get old.

Anyway........from having talked to a friend who’s friends with the Cptn in question, there’s A LOT more to this story and from having heard his side of it second-hand it infuriates me to read some of our peers crucifying him.

No, I’m not going to elaborate on the story out of respect for my friend. Everyone just needs to take a chill pill. Hopefully, the truth comes out but we might have to accept the fact that it never will given that Alaska will probably just pay for this problem to go away and make them both sign NDAs.
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Old 03-18-2018, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JackStraw
'I believe that this is an under-reported, swept-under-the-rug, not-dealt-with issue in our industry,' Pina told ABC News. 'It's not just our airline.'

Ok that’s it. This woman is agenda-driven. Are female pilots being rufied and raped all across the industry?

License: check.
Medical: check.
Headset: check.
Rufies: check. Good to go.

This is some bs.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.daily...e-lawsuit.html
Really?
We all know “that guy”.
Every single one of us knows “that guy”.
The inappropriate remarks and behavior. The awkward flirting with hotel, FBO/Airport staff or fellow airline staff. Never been at breakfast and some random pilot guy is unrelentingly hitting on a server? You’ve never been witness to that type of behavior?
Or are you a good ol’ Boy and whatever happens on the road stays on the road.
We all know the guys who rate female pilots below god forbid....immigrants. Wimmin’s just out for your job they don’t deserve.
It’s kinda sad if the only way you can get a woman is by drugging them.
Really sad actually.
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Old 03-18-2018, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
Really?
We all know “that guy”.
Every single one of us knows “that guy”.
The inappropriate remarks and behavior. The awkward flirting with hotel, FBO/Airport staff or fellow airline staff. Never been at breakfast and some random pilot guy is unrelentingly hitting on a server? You’ve never been witness to that type of behavior?
Or are you a good ol’ Boy and whatever happens on the road stays on the road.
We all know the guys who rate female pilots below god forbid....immigrants. Wimmin’s just out for your job they don’t deserve.
It’s kinda sad if the only way you can get a woman is by drugging them.
Really sad actually.
Yes, we all know "that" guy, but to say that "that" guy is pervasive in our industry is a gross exaggeration. We know "that" guy because his behavior stands out as so inappropriate and awkward to the overwhelming majority of us.
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Old 03-18-2018, 11:49 AM
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Lots of hurt male egos in this thread.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Yes, we all know "that" guy, but to say that "that" guy is pervasive in our industry is a gross exaggeration. We know "that" guy because his behavior stands out as so inappropriate and awkward to the overwhelming majority of us.
Insensitive is not the same as misogynist, and misogynist is the the same as rapist. I think very, very few people are premeditated rapists/repdators, and those tend to account for multiple crimes each.

Those are quit different from the drunk student scenario where consent is questionable due to alcohol impairment.
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Old 03-18-2018, 12:42 PM
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I'm sure every single poster who feels like this woman is a no-good opportunist looking for a payday would have no problem volunteering their own daughters, wives, or girlfriends for a night on the town with the captain in question. After all, it's just a big lawyer-concocted lie, right?

Your victim blaming is revolting. I suggest we change the scenario to someone you actually care about, because the delusions you spin to save your fragile egos are incredible.

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Old 03-18-2018, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Yes, we all know "that" guy, but to say that "that" guy is pervasive in our industry is a gross exaggeration. We know "that" guy because his behavior stands out as so inappropriate and awkward to the overwhelming majority of us.
So what are you saying? We all know the same “guy”?!
Every company has those guys and they’re a stain on our industry.
Be honest how many times have you heard : “ I have daughters that age but she’s haaaawt”
Really dude? Seriously? Your daughters in the same sentence?
You’ve forgotten the SW pilot rant on the air?
Unless it’s a strip joint women have a right to be left alone in the workplace and not constantly be deflecting the Daddy issue types.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:18 PM
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I appreciate the guys here who see the bigger issue. No, not many guys are rapists, maybe not even misogynists...but waay too many are insensitive clods. They think NOTHING of not caring if you overhear them talking about who they want to bang and describing which FAs they'd like to combine to make the "ideal female." Oh yeah, all young women more than half his age. Tasteless and disgusting.
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Old 03-18-2018, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WutFace
I'm sure every single poster who feels like this woman is a no-good opportunist looking for a payday would have no problem volunteering their own daughters, wives, or girlfriends for a night on the town with the captain in question. After all, it's just a big lawyer-concocted lie, right?

Your victim blaming is revolting. I suggest we change the scenario to someone you actually care about, because the delusions you spin to save your fragile egos are incredible.
Well just like every single poster who feels this Captain should be convicted as a rapist based on what this lady and her attorneys have said alone would have no problem volunteering their sons to give up their due process rights and be convicted on what one person says without any investigation or the ability to have their side of the story heard as well.

Your blaming the accused without giving them their due process rights to be heard, nor even hearing the results of the investigation by Alaska or the authorities is revolting. In this country we have something called the presumption of innocence until PROVEN guilty. She hasn't even sued him or demanded the authorities in Minneapolis arrest him for rape.

But we know women never lie, distort, or try to extort men in situations like this right? Go hang out around a Family Court for an afternoon and you'll find out different.

Until you hear the Captain's side of it, see what Alaska found out in their investigation, or there is a criminal investigation launched it is impossible to say what really happened here. She could be telling the truth, she may not be. However it is very curious that she has filed no criminal complaint, given the fact that she feels she was sexually assaulted and drugged. The only problem with that, is if it is found she filed a false complaint she would be in legal jeopardy for filing a false report. Also curious that her suit targets only Alaska, and not the man who she claims drugged and raped her.

Unfortunately we will probably never know, as Alaska will probably pay everyone off, have them sign NDAs, and bury the whole thing to make it go away, unless the authorities get involved somehow.

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Old 03-18-2018, 01:59 PM
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Anyway........from having talked to a friend who’s friends with the Cptn in question, there’s A LOT more to this story and from having heard HIS side of it second-hand it infuriates me to read some of our peers crucifying him.

No, I’m not going to elaborate on the story out of respect for my friend. Everyone just needs to take a chill pill. Hopefully, the truth comes out but we might have to accept the fact that it never will given that Alaska will probably just pay for this problem to go away and make them both sign NDAs.
Why even mention it when you’re not going to elaborate? Just eluding there is “more”.
Yeah I can tell you how much more.
There’s 6 versions of everything that happened:

Her version
His version
Attorneys version
Jury’s opinion
Legal opinion.....and the Truth

Gimme a break. He has the opportunity to seek publicity also.
But his attorney told him to shut up in order to not incriminate himself.
Even best friends don’t know your darker sides. And neither do best friends or your best friends friend.
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