JackStraw

He said, she said. Maybe it was 2 glasses. Maybe it wasn’t and they busted the company 10 hour rule.

Mesabah

From the court document, it states that the company was inquiring about their drinking, after a flight attendant called on them.
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...-Airlines.html

busdriver12

Is it really a bad idea to go have a couple of glasses of wine with your other cockpit crewmember? Should that be considered a bad decision? I have gone to dinner or sat at the bar numerous times over the last 34 years that I've flown in the military or the airlines. Never would have considered it a "bad decision". You're just hanging out and enjoying a meal or glass of wine with someone else, you don't expect them to drug and rape you. It would be the furthest thing from my mind.

One of the things that really bothers me about this case is the betrayal of trust. If I had a first officer who thought they were drugged and raped on a layover, I would hope their first call would be to me. I would hope that he or she would trust that I would protect and help them. That is absolutely my responsibility as a captain, a fellow crewmember, and as a decent person.

sherpster

Absent any other evidence, I believe they both drank way too much and she went to his room and then changed her story after they got busted by the flight attendant who turned them in. She panicked and claimed she was drugged......It took her two days to come up with her plan/story

busdriver12

But is also says that the concierge room closed at 7pm, and if that is true then it doesn't sound like it should have even been close (unless they had an extremely early flight).

MiLtoMajor123

People seem to be forgetting that AS's alcohol/chemical policy, up until a few months ago (coincidence???), had TWO limiting factors. 10 hr rule AND the Cinderella rule.....aka you couldn't drink ANY alcohol the same day as you were scheduled for duty...aka you had to stop drinking at Midnight the night before.....even tho you may not report till 10 pm the next night. Stupid(ish) rule I think and now it's gone....but still that was the policy. Tho nothing good usually happens after midnight...so there's that.

I don't know what happened in this situation....but that is another factor to at least think about. Especially if you may or may not be on probation......maybe she was maybe she wasn't.

JackStraw

Yep #metoo

Mesabah

The problem with her story is that date rape drugs are usually Bezodiazepines, (which are probably abused in this industry, since the DOT is not allowed to test for them) require a lot of heavy drinking to have the side effects she is claiming. The part of her story I don't believe is the two glasses of wine. The rest is up for debate.

busdriver12

Uh, yeah, because if someone didn't catch it on video, then it couldn't have happened.

And of course, what woman wouldn't love having the gory details come out in the press, because it's just so much fun to read about yourself and the nasty comments that people make, blaming you for it.

JackStraw

Was she sexually violated or did she have a library named after her? It’s hard to tell from this portrait.


I joke but seriously what was the intent behind this photo?