Originally Posted by Truthanator

I don't mean this as an attack at all, this is a genuine question.

If you woke up in a hotel room as she did and absolutely knew you were drugged and raped, as she described it......the first thing you would do is....go back to work?

Maybe i'm being naive here, but my first call in such a cut and dry incident, as it has been described by her, is to go straight to the police and file a report. Hotel camera footage, key cards, time stamps, possibly even physical evidence from both of them, witnesses, sworn statements, whatever is available, is collected immediately.

Originally Posted by iHateAMR

She didn’t even have an opportunity to return to work. While she was dazed and confused, the FODO had pulled both of them off the operational leg and deadheaded them to SEA.

Originally Posted by Excargodog

And where was the legal department on all this? She gave them a month's warning to do something or she would file this case and it would all go public. Was that the first they'd heard of it? Did they drop the ball? Did they think she was bluffing?

This makes the whole management seem to be either uncaring, incompetent, or both. Is this truly the best outcome the company could have expected from this once it happened?

Originally Posted by DashAviator

Without referencing the present case at Alaska...

It's a well-known fact that there are problem children at every company. One of our managers once told me that 10% of his employees seem to use up about 90% of his time and energy. For pilots, I think the percentage is more like 3%, but you get the idea. The range of "bad" behavior includes verbal or physical abuse, substance abuse, or intentional disregard for safety or operational procedures.

After you've been at a company for a few years, you know who the "bad actors" are. Management and the union know who they are. Nothing happens. Sure, the guy (or gal) might get hauled into the Chief Pilot's Office and get a lecture, or have a form letter added to their personnel file. Three months later, they're up to their old tricks again. Unless they do something that's actually illegal and/or exceptionally well-documented, nothing will happen.

The biggest part of the problem? Not that it's "pervasive" (it's not), but that it continues.

Originally Posted by MiLtoMajor123

I just don't like the feel of this at all......if the accusations turn out to be true this guy should be behind bars. It bugs me that the police were completely left out of the situation and that now it looks, at face value, like a PR stunt to get a payday....probably pushed a just a wee bit from her Lawyer, given the chance at a career changing case. Not saying it didn't happen...not saying she is a pawn in her lawyers game...but when things get to this stage, $$$ involved, and the fact that this wasn't a criminal case (aka no money in that) it's hard to separate the wheat from the chaff....and everyone (on both sides) will say anything to help their case.

Originally Posted by Excargodog

Due process? Certainly. But even for the most charitable interpretation possible toward his version of events, he was dumb as a box of rocks. Taking a drunk female subordinate he barely knew to his room? Even if he hadn't had to wrestle her for 20 minutes to get her there from the elevator as the lawyer claims the videos show, what kind of idiot does that?

I mean, the man never saw Basic Instinct?

Even if he did nothing criminal, he's too damn STUPID to be trusted in a position of authority again.

Originally Posted by MiLtoMajor123

I just don't like the feel of this at all......if the accusations turn out to be true this guy should be behind bars. It bugs me that the police were completely left out of the situation and that now it looks, at face value, like a PR stunt to get a payday....probably pushed a just a wee bit from her Lawyer, given the chance at a career changing case. Not saying it didn't happen...not saying she is a pawn in her lawyers game...but when things get to this stage, $$$ involved, and the fact that this wasn't a criminal case (aka no money in that) it's hard to separate the wheat from the chaff....and everyone (on both sides) will say anything to help their case.

Originally Posted by deltaflyer

Some of the responses I'm reading in this thread are beyond reprehensible....and frankly, they speak more to the lack of morals and character of the authors than anything else.

This is a woman who, excluding a quick stop at Horizon, went straight from the military to Alaska Airlines where she was a NEW HIRE. All of her training would have led her to speak of the incident to her supervisors within the airline. Frankly, I'm amazed she spoke to ALPA at all and am wondering what was done from their end, if anything at all. She was clearly loathe to subject her employer to the horrendous publicity this would generate. And there is not a woman alive who doesn't understand the victim-shaming that automatically accompanies a rape charge, whether the perpetrator ends up in prison or not. She knew darned good and well what would happen to her career: men she worked with every day would now be calling her a ***** who must try to sleep with every captain she flies with (so don't talk to her! call in sick, don't fly with her!); she must have worn suggestive clothing to lure him into bed (because what woman wouldn't be dying to get into this guy's pants?); she was looking for a payout (instead of wanting to continue a very distinguished career); she was capitalizing on the MeToo movement.....yes, she knew every disgusting statement that would follow her for the rest of her career, even if she went to another carrier. Everyone is getting a good preview of the smear campaign against her. All women know how these things go down. I'm quite certain that the only reason a lawsuit was filed the other day was because she finally realized how naive she had been to believe the company was going to take care of the problem.

Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER

I’d argue that you’re too damn stupid to be trusted in a position of authority for making a post like that.

There. How does that feel?

Originally Posted by JackStraw

She’s doing interviews now. Calls sexual assault “a pervasive problem in the airline industry”... Does anyone else really agree that it’s a pervasive problem?

https://www.google.com/amp/abcnews.g...%3fid=53785721