Yikes...
#102
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Also, while I think that the captain should absolutely be afforded due process in this, there appears to be waaaay too much smoke to not be any fire.
#103
In the US, way less than 50% of the women who are raped ever go to the police, for various reasons, some of which we have read here on this thread.
I recommend all women, if raped/assaulted at their organization and/or by someone in their organization (school, employer, etc.), they should IMMEDIATELY call local law enforcement, and, after that, then inform whomever in their organization. Usually, HR at their organization will not help them at all.
I recommend all women, if raped/assaulted at their organization and/or by someone in their organization (school, employer, etc.), they should IMMEDIATELY call local law enforcement, and, after that, then inform whomever in their organization. Usually, HR at their organization will not help them at all.
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#105
I mean, the man never saw Basic Instinct?
Even if he did nothing criminal, he's too damn STUPID to be trusted in a position of authority again.
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How about because women are naturally crazy and we have this MeToo movement going on and just because she said so, served in the military etc, doesn’t make her accusations any more relevant. Did she call police on the morning she woke up with no pants and a hangover with fresh clues for police to investigate? Or did she fly back with him, decide at some point she wanted her metoo payout and then say something.
#107
In the US, way less than 50% of the women who are raped ever go to the police, for various reasons, some of which we have read here on this thread.
I recommend all women, if raped/assaulted at their organization and/or by someone in their organization (school, employer, etc.), they should IMMEDIATELY call local law enforcement, and, after that, then inform whomever in their organization. Usually, HR at their organization will not help them at all.
I recommend all women, if raped/assaulted at their organization and/or by someone in their organization (school, employer, etc.), they should IMMEDIATELY call local law enforcement, and, after that, then inform whomever in their organization. Usually, HR at their organization will not help them at all.
You guys learn nothing from Watergate? The coverup gets you in just as much trouble as the crime itself.
And where was the legal department on all this? She gave them a month's warning to do something or she would file this case and it would all go public. Was that the first they'd heard of it? Did they drop the ball? Did they think she was bluffing?
This makes the whole management seem to be either uncaring, incompetent, or both. Is this truly the best outcome the company could have expected from this once it happened?
#108
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I'm not sure I'd use the term "pervasive", but this may just be a matter of semantics. See below. Most of the male pilots I've flown with have been respectful and professional. It's somewhat unusual to run into one that is overtly demeaning to women (or demonstrates some other kind of unacceptable behavior).
Without referencing the present case at Alaska...
It's a well-known fact that there are problem children at every company. One of our managers once told me that 10% of his employees seem to use up about 90% of his time and energy. For pilots, I think the percentage is more like 3%, but you get the idea. The range of "bad" behavior includes verbal or physical abuse, substance abuse, or intentional disregard for safety or operational procedures.
After you've been at a company for a few years, you know who the "bad actors" are. Management and the union know who they are. Nothing happens. Sure, the guy (or gal) might get hauled into the Chief Pilot's Office and get a lecture, or have a form letter added to their personnel file. Three months later, they're up to their old tricks again. Unless they do something that's actually illegal and/or exceptionally well-documented, nothing will happen.
The biggest part of the problem? Not that it's "pervasive" (it's not), but that it continues.
Without referencing the present case at Alaska...
It's a well-known fact that there are problem children at every company. One of our managers once told me that 10% of his employees seem to use up about 90% of his time and energy. For pilots, I think the percentage is more like 3%, but you get the idea. The range of "bad" behavior includes verbal or physical abuse, substance abuse, or intentional disregard for safety or operational procedures.
After you've been at a company for a few years, you know who the "bad actors" are. Management and the union know who they are. Nothing happens. Sure, the guy (or gal) might get hauled into the Chief Pilot's Office and get a lecture, or have a form letter added to their personnel file. Three months later, they're up to their old tricks again. Unless they do something that's actually illegal and/or exceptionally well-documented, nothing will happen.
The biggest part of the problem? Not that it's "pervasive" (it's not), but that it continues.
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