PBS at Alaska?
12-18-2019, 08:32 AM
#201
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Until we have more ownership on how the pairings are made it won't really matter which delivery system we have. For instance in the JAN SFO bid packet an overwhelming majority of the pairings have early starts and late finishes. I was really picky with which lines I wanted and only bid about 20 or so and ended up not getting any. When the OF lines posted it was basically the same so I chose LC over having to burn so many extra days commuting or taking red eyes home.
How'd you like those ~15 lines of 4 of the same 18.5hr 4 day: 14hrs of block in 3 duty periods and 4 days, 26hrs in SEA, 25hrs in JFK, and paid on TAFB?
I know it's January, I've never seen a pairing that bad at ANY airline.
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12-18-2019, 08:38 AM
#202
Respek
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,635
We know what was dropped in step trading lol.
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12-18-2019, 09:11 AM
#203
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I disagree with the “pairing construction has to be fixed before it makes a difference” argument. I’d begrudgingly fly more days per month to the cities I want to layover in than fly fewer days and miss out on being able to care for my ill family members during layovers. I know everyone doesn’t see it this way but I’m tired of people making blanket statements. Maybe lead your statements with “A majority of pilots would benefit more with improved pairing construction....”
Not everyone’s situation is the same. While I may not be in the majority I personally would take PBS first, pairing optimization second and I’ve let my reps know that.
Not everyone’s situation is the same. While I may not be in the majority I personally would take PBS first, pairing optimization second and I’ve let my reps know that.
12-18-2019, 12:14 PM
#204
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I disagree with the “pairing construction has to be fixed before it makes a difference” argument. I’d begrudgingly fly more days per month to the cities I want to layover in than fly fewer days and miss out on being able to care for my ill family members during layovers. I know everyone doesn’t see it this way but I’m tired of people making blanket statements. Maybe lead your statements with “A majority of pilots would benefit more with improved pairing construction....”
Not everyone’s situation is the same. While I may not be in the majority I personally would take PBS first, pairing optimization second and I’ve let my reps know that.
Not everyone’s situation is the same. While I may not be in the majority I personally would take PBS first, pairing optimization second and I’ve let my reps know that.
12-18-2019, 12:28 PM
#205
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Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 186
At first I was skeptical towards PBS at my old airline, but we got it along with solid language and it was much better than line bidding. Senior people got what they wanted and even junior people as well.
Despite the improvement, it still saves the company money so if they want it they're going to have to pay for it. They can start with scope and then scheduling/reserve rules. There's a special place in hell for those who have to commute to reserve here.
Despite the improvement, it still saves the company money so if they want it they're going to have to pay for it. They can start with scope and then scheduling/reserve rules. There's a special place in hell for those who have to commute to reserve here.
12-18-2019, 02:23 PM
#206
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Good thing there’s only one of me then. If the reps follow the polling then the views of the majority will be followed. I just hate having my opinions assigned to me. FWIW my priorities when I was polled were fixing reserve rules, scope and PBS in that order. Just because something affects me personally I don’t necessarily think that automatically should be the negotiators priorities.
12-18-2019, 04:20 PM
#209
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I hate tell you, but AS management already has PBS. If you think otherwise then you’re severely mistaken. I guarantee you they know they don’t need PBS. That’s why they tossed the SKD MOU to the curb. So for them it’s a dangling carrot for the pilot group. They’ll try to use that to force concessions elsewhere.
12-18-2019, 05:32 PM
#210
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Posts: 219
We all work 80+ hours every month. PBS will have the same constraints. There might be a ever so slight efficiency gain from the company being able to better plan RSV coverage with PBS.
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