PBS at Alaska?
10-27-2019, 07:52 AM
#194
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No, the joke is line bidding the way AS does it. Pilots complain about lack of productivity, and poor quality of pairings yet love line bidding. It is a sad irony...
PBS with an MOU we agree on, and a vendor we choose should be implied and inferred as a means to accept PBS on property. The argument that management will have all control under PBS is laughable. They have all the control now. Instead of fighting over which vendor is crappiest and how much of a "joke" it is, we should be campaigning for a good vendor and the work rules we require for a mutually beneficial implementation of PBS.
PBS with an MOU we agree on, and a vendor we choose should be implied and inferred as a means to accept PBS on property. The argument that management will have all control under PBS is laughable. They have all the control now. Instead of fighting over which vendor is crappiest and how much of a "joke" it is, we should be campaigning for a good vendor and the work rules we require for a mutually beneficial implementation of PBS.
10-27-2019, 08:07 AM
#195
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No, the joke is line bidding the way AS does it. Pilots complain about lack of productivity, and poor quality of pairings yet love line bidding. It is a sad irony...
PBS with an MOU we agree on, and a vendor we choose should be implied and inferred as a means to accept PBS on property. The argument that management will have all control under PBS is laughable. They have all the control now. Instead of fighting over which vendor is crappiest and how much of a "joke" it is, we should be campaigning for a good vendor and the work rules we require for a mutually beneficial implementation of PBS.
PBS with an MOU we agree on, and a vendor we choose should be implied and inferred as a means to accept PBS on property. The argument that management will have all control under PBS is laughable. They have all the control now. Instead of fighting over which vendor is crappiest and how much of a "joke" it is, we should be campaigning for a good vendor and the work rules we require for a mutually beneficial implementation of PBS.
12-16-2019, 07:42 PM
#196
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No, the joke is line bidding the way AS does it. Pilots complain about lack of productivity, and poor quality of pairings yet love line bidding. It is a sad irony...
PBS with an MOU we agree on, and a vendor we choose should be implied and inferred as a means to accept PBS on property. The argument that management will have all control under PBS is laughable. They have all the control now. Instead of fighting over which vendor is crappiest and how much of a "joke" it is, we should be campaigning for a good vendor and the work rules we require for a mutually beneficial implementation of PBS.
PBS with an MOU we agree on, and a vendor we choose should be implied and inferred as a means to accept PBS on property. The argument that management will have all control under PBS is laughable. They have all the control now. Instead of fighting over which vendor is crappiest and how much of a "joke" it is, we should be campaigning for a good vendor and the work rules we require for a mutually beneficial implementation of PBS.
12-17-2019, 07:35 AM
#197
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Pairing construction determines the quality and efficiency of the flying. Need to keep in mind that it's limited by the business model, ie the type of flying the company does. No matter how hard you negotiate the company isn't going to eliminate short haul and add trancons and ETOPs flights just to make the pilots happy... you (or somebody) has to fly the legs the company needs.
PBS just provides more flexibility in choice of pairings. No real reason for somebody else to pick your pairings for you.
12-18-2019, 08:15 AM
#199
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Until we have more ownership on how the pairings are made it won't really matter which delivery system we have. For instance in the JAN SFO bid packet an overwhelming majority of the pairings have early starts and late finishes. I was really picky with which lines I wanted and only bid about 20 or so and ended up not getting any. When the OF lines posted it was basically the same so I chose LC over having to burn so many extra days commuting or taking red eyes home.
12-18-2019, 08:17 AM
#200
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Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: This side of the dirt.
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“We have PBS here NOW! Right now, the most senior pilots bid their schedule, then through step trading, drop some or all of their awarded schedule only to pick up they days/times/days off/pairings they actually want. THAT, ... is PBS.... it’s just that it only really works for the most senior pilots, takes hours of your time off to submit, and two weeks to award.”
Thought that was a pretty solid observation
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