KnockKnock

My error was mixing up guaranteed rsv days off with bid block holders days off. I’m so totally mortified at my mistake and my forever tarnished union membership. I’m a horrible human. Thank you for correcting me oh infallible one. I see why you consult your 3rd grader. Your playground, passive aggressive, snark is really good stuff...

opdeliber

Thank you for your apology, now please apologize for your apology. I’m both triggered and offended.

KnockKnock

Yessss, way to put the PC back into APC. Well played.

AltoCumulus

I gave you a direct contract quote...I tried to keep it light by including my daughter. You gave me a snarky reply about my math abilities. You got a little bit back. I have no power over your union membership status nor did I make any comment about your status as a human...that was you.

Now can we move on and take my broader point that the contract knowledge on the line is lacking. We can’t defend nor improve our contract (regardless of how pathetic the terms) unless ALL of us actually knows what it says and holds the company to those terms and demand the MEC work to improve them.

My comment was never meant as a personal attack on you as I am sure if you asked 100 pilots on the line what our minimum days off contractually I bet more than 1/2 would say 12, most of the rest might say no minimum, very few people would come up with 8.

rickair7777

Nobody thinks the union should just hand PBS to the company, it would of course need tight contractual controls. If that can't happen, then maybe line bidding would be better. But the objective should be PBS with controls, since that would maximize QOL and lifestyle flexibility.

Bugaboo

God gosh guys....grow up

snackysmores

At Horizon we have PBS with "ironclad" language and I find it vastly inferior to line bidding.

KnockKnock

[QUOTE=AltoCumulus;2557891]I gave you a direct contract quote...I tried to keep it light by including my daughter. You gave me a snarky reply about my math abilities. You got a little bit back. I have no power over your union membership status nor did I make any comment about your status as a human...that was you.

Now can we move on and take my broader point that the contract knowledge on the line is lacking. We can’t defend nor improve our contract (regardless of how pathetic the terms) unless ALL of us actually knows what it says and holds the company to those terms and demand the MEC work to improve them.

My comment was never meant as a personal attack on you as I am sure if you asked 100 pilots on the line what our minimum days off contractually I bet more than 1/2 would say 12, most of the rest might say no minimum, very few people would come up with 8.[/QUOTE

Lost in translation I guess but when you’re saying “responsible union members know their contract” using my quote, I gotta assume you’re inferring I’m an irresponsible union member because I mistook one thing for another. When you tell me that even your 3rd grader knows 2x4=8, I gotta assume you’re comparing my math skills to your daughters for some reason. I don’t mind one bit being corrected on contract language. In fact I invite it. I’d love to have an ironclad understanding of the contract and I agree we should all have a better understanding of our CBA. All I did was lob your “perceived” sarcasm back at you. No harm no foul.

Cruz5350

Min days off mean nothing when you get extended into days off.... ask me how I know....

Beta82

This needs to be the first page put into the fire in 2020. This is an amazingly destructive gem to flexibility and scheduling. How about no less than 2 days off after a work block? Doesn't that accomplish the same goal? If you want more time off, put in a minimum days off clause. My vote is to shoot for a minimum of 14 days off month; if you get extended into a day off they will take a day off another trip or give you an extra day off.