Why Alaska?
02-14-2018, 05:34 PM
#31
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Why Alaska?
I’ve been trying to leave for a while but finally gave up and accepted the fact that I’ll spend the rest of my career working for a jacked up airline. I just hope prospective applicants can either wise up and work elsewhere or use it as the stepping stone it should be.
02-14-2018, 07:23 PM
#32
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Lots of posts about this being a stepping stone and leave for somewhere better. Words are nice, but actions speak louder and the reality is we do not have an attrition problem. In the hearing transcripts put out, they admit they lost about 20 AS guys and 5 VX guys since the merger and that the attrition was well within historical norms, if not even less. It's a seniority and longevity driven industry. The longer you're in the harder it gets to leave. Management knows this all too well.
02-14-2018, 10:02 PM
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Don’t forget the no shows for indoc either, I know there have been several of those as well. I am hired elsewhere, awaiting class date. Plus, I think we will see a few more after SLI leave once the seniority list is done. I am not too terribly concerned with this SLI, it’s the NEXT merger/acquisition I am concerned about.
02-14-2018, 10:04 PM
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Don’t forget the no shows for indoc either, I know there have been several of those as well. I am hired elsewhere, awaiting class date. Plus, I think we will see a few more after SLI leave once the seniority list is done. I am not too terribly concerned with this SLI, it’s the NEXT merger/acquisition I am concerned about.
Yes, I am very envious.
02-14-2018, 10:14 PM
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Thanks ForeverJunior! Tough decision, but when wife and I sat down and weighed the pro and cons to staying or going, we saw the writing on the wall for Alaska’s future (hope we are wrong) and the opportunities the other carriers provide that AK doesn't. The one thing I am bummed to leave behind is the pilots I fly with, AWESOME BUNCH!!!)
02-15-2018, 08:11 AM
#36
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Lots of posts about this being a stepping stone and leave for somewhere better. Words are nice, but actions speak louder and the reality is we do not have an attrition problem. In the hearing transcripts put out, they admit they lost about 20 AS guys and 5 VX guys since the merger and that the attrition was well within historical norms, if not even less. It's a seniority and longevity driven industry. The longer you're in the harder it gets to leave. Management knows this all too well.
42 people resigned in the last 6 months. Of those, 9 were age 65, 20 were FOs, 18 were hired in 2013 or more recently.
02-15-2018, 08:15 AM
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Thanks ForeverJunior! Tough decision, but when wife and I sat down and weighed the pro and cons to staying or going, we saw the writing on the wall for Alaska’s future (hope we are wrong) and the opportunities the other carriers provide that AK doesn't. The one thing I am bummed to leave behind is the pilots I fly with, AWESOME BUNCH!!!)
02-15-2018, 10:35 AM
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Eskimo Mgmt ran the numbers.....it came back that if they lost 40 pilots to other carriers, going to arbitration was not worth the holdout (costwise). Hope enough FOs bail and they see what they have created here! Shame on B&B.....too busy sending Kemp out on orange lanyard duty at SeaTac!
02-16-2018, 04:57 AM
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02-16-2018, 07:04 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. I do find it interesting that there is very little positive to say about the airline(not that APC is the place to go for positivity). The only thing I have gotten from this discussion is that there are good people, but there are good people everywhere. The three airlines that I have worked for have all had really good people, maybe I’m just lucky. So that really isn’t much of a positive.
SLI will be a turning point I think, as well as VX pilots going to line bidding with schedules that looks like AS lines. Going from 17-18 days off a month to non commutable 14 days off a month is going to be difficult for a large group of VX pilots. The question is, is it enough to to get us to pack up and bail.
SLI will be a turning point I think, as well as VX pilots going to line bidding with schedules that looks like AS lines. Going from 17-18 days off a month to non commutable 14 days off a month is going to be difficult for a large group of VX pilots. The question is, is it enough to to get us to pack up and bail.
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