Arbitration
10-30-2017, 04:48 PM
#154
Prime Minister/Moderator
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,211
10-30-2017, 04:51 PM
#155
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,919
Cliff notes:
No scope
No Retro
No international/ETOPS override increase
Pretty fair and good pay scale
15.5% retirement
Highest first year pay in the industry.
I am super bummed about no retro pay and no scope, but I wasn't banking on either one.
10-30-2017, 04:52 PM
#156
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Position: a cushy one with a forward facing window
Posts: 114
Watch out you might get what you're after
Boom babies strange but not a stranger
I'm an ordinary guy
Burning down the house
Hold tight wait till the party's over
Hold tight We're in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way
Burning down the house
Here's your ticket pack your bag
Time for jumpin' overboard
The transportation is here
Close enough but not too far,
Maybe you know where you are
Fightin' fire with fire
Boom babies strange but not a stranger
I'm an ordinary guy
Burning down the house
Hold tight wait till the party's over
Hold tight We're in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way
Burning down the house
Here's your ticket pack your bag
Time for jumpin' overboard
The transportation is here
Close enough but not too far,
Maybe you know where you are
Fightin' fire with fire
10-30-2017, 04:53 PM
#157
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 32
Cliff notes:
ALPA proposal for scope and job protection is denied.
Top scale hourly rates will be $251
New pay rates for years 1-5. They are pretty much what the company wanted, plus a few dollars. Other years were denied and directed back to the parties for future negotiation.
ALPA proposal for increase to international/etops is denied
ALPA proposal for increase in the DC contribution rate is denied.
Non-DB plan pilots increase to 15% this year, and to 15.5% next year
ALPA proposal to amend contributions in excess of qualified plan limits is denied.
ALPA proposal for scope and job protection is denied.
Top scale hourly rates will be $251
New pay rates for years 1-5. They are pretty much what the company wanted, plus a few dollars. Other years were denied and directed back to the parties for future negotiation.
ALPA proposal for increase to international/etops is denied
ALPA proposal for increase in the DC contribution rate is denied.
Non-DB plan pilots increase to 15% this year, and to 15.5% next year
ALPA proposal to amend contributions in excess of qualified plan limits is denied.
10-30-2017, 04:59 PM
#158
Banned
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 409
I was really hoping for scope but I was expecting them to not touch scope with a 10 foot pole.
Cliff notes:
No scope
No Retro
No international/ETOPS override increase
Pretty fair and good pay scale
15.5% retirement
Highest first year pay in the industry.
I am super bummed about no retro pay and no scope, but I wasn't banking on either one.
Cliff notes:
No scope
No Retro
No international/ETOPS override increase
Pretty fair and good pay scale
15.5% retirement
Highest first year pay in the industry.
I am super bummed about no retro pay and no scope, but I wasn't banking on either one.
10-30-2017, 05:06 PM
#160
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,919
I am not super mad at the payscale, but overall this is a win for management that is for sure.
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