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10-27-2017, 11:40 AM
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The general public thinks airline pilots are overpaid as it is. What, do you think the guy with the $60-80k, decent paying, well above median income, job is going to look at your billboard every day on his way to busting his ass at work and say: "You know, those guys deserve to top out at 5 times what I make instead of 4 times what I make, I'm not flying this airline again until those pilots make even more money!"
You have to consider the audience; major airline pilots are neither going to get the sympathy of the people that are going to see a billboard, nor will they deserve it. I personally think, like the rest of us in the industry, that we should be paid fairly and in line with our peers. Good luck selling that to Joe Sixpack though
You have to consider the audience; major airline pilots are neither going to get the sympathy of the people that are going to see a billboard, nor will they deserve it. I personally think, like the rest of us in the industry, that we should be paid fairly and in line with our peers. Good luck selling that to Joe Sixpack though
10-27-2017, 11:45 AM
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10-27-2017, 01:16 PM
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As a previous poster said, AS has always embraced the corporate view of "greedy pilots" and tried to spread that to other labor groups. Remember 50% profit sharing? Why? Because you guys make too much money as it is.
They've relied on the Mileage Program to keep seats full from the State of Alaska forever. Funny thing is now that Delta is pushed into SEA most of the high dollar business flyers who aren't bound for the West Coast are packing Delta flights out of ANC. Easier connections through MSP, DTW and ATL for eastern and international destinations.
It saddens but not surprises me that this is how the Anglers are treating critical employees. A leopard can't change his spots and neither can an Angler.
They've relied on the Mileage Program to keep seats full from the State of Alaska forever. Funny thing is now that Delta is pushed into SEA most of the high dollar business flyers who aren't bound for the West Coast are packing Delta flights out of ANC. Easier connections through MSP, DTW and ATL for eastern and international destinations.
It saddens but not surprises me that this is how the Anglers are treating critical employees. A leopard can't change his spots and neither can an Angler.
10-28-2017, 05:52 AM
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As a previous poster said, AS has always embraced the corporate view of "greedy pilots" and tried to spread that to other labor groups. Remember 50% profit sharing? Why? Because you guys make too much money as it is.
It saddens but not surprises me that this is how the Anglers are treating critical employees. A leopard can't change his spots and neither can an Angler.
It saddens but not surprises me that this is how the Anglers are treating critical employees. A leopard can't change his spots and neither can an Angler.
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10-28-2017, 07:28 AM
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They didn't put out such a video. The "greedy bastages" comment came from a former pilot scheduler, who is now in FA scheduling. She should have known better than to post anti-pilot stuff on Facebook and Instagram. Screenshots of her ignorant tirades got passed around the pilot group.
Regardless, management has created and fostered the anti-pilot environment. For years, when you'd get on the company website, there was never a word about pilots. No articles written about pilots or anything else even mentioning this one particular work group. It was very noticeable. "These planes pretty much just fly themselves."
More than ever, it is crystal clear that this management hates the pilot group. This is not just vitriol on my part. I've been in it long enough to observe this. They have done a good job of diminishing and undermining this group of employees. We have allowed it to happen though.
This type of tactic works short-term. But, long-term, it will have a negative effect on the whole airline. But then again, this management group only sees what's right in front of them. Just look at all the "money saving" decisions they make, which ends up costing them more in the long run. A good example of this is the door mods on the freighters. The -400 freighter always had problems. Now, I've been told that the -700 freighter that came from Tel Aviv (very late by the way), has problems. It's also apparently 5000 pounds heavier than it was supposed to be.
Sorry for the diatribe and going off on a tangent.
10-29-2017, 05:53 AM
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10-29-2017, 06:24 AM
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