Pogey Bait

Yes indeed. W T F!!! “You mean October 29th is on a Sunday? I’ve gotta 9 am tee time, oh $hi+”

BiloxiJack

Kinda makes you wonder if they intentionally let horizon tank to scew the earnings report, hoping that would prove their point of a struggling airline to the arbitrators... a loss of 30 million horizon dollars is still 79 million less than they would have had to pay by completing this jcba by April.

ForeverJunior

No, they let Horizon tank because of total ineptitude on their part. They didn't want to pay QX pilots, so they had huge attrition number and many no-shows to new-hire class. It's typical Angle Lake BS. They never learn. They cut everything to the bone and then are surprised by the negative results. Then, they scramble to try to fix the problem. They are always reactive. It's constant chaos over at HQ.

3inthegreen

Pathetic! I feel for you guys. We are still getting jerked around over at Spirit by an equally incompetent management team. Any word then on when you will hear? Monday OCT 30th?

ForeverJunior

Yes, it's now Monday, because arbitrator Javits cannot read a calendar. Seriously though, I'm sure the 3 wanted to get paid for one more day of "work".

Also, I'm sure in the legal world it's acceptable to announce a ruling on Monday, if the actual ruling date falls on a Sunday.

What's one more day? It's not like 2700+ pilots haven't been frustrated about this garbage for several months. They can wait one more day to eat their crap sandwich.

Arctichicken

Arbitrator's decision delayed until Monday.....no big surprise there. Nothing we can do about it.
It makes me sad that management continues to go down the path of self destruction. They choose to be blinded by ego, arrogance, greed, and narcissism. What's more unfathomable is the fact that EVERY airline management out there is avidly preparing for competition by building their army through positive reinforcement, motivation, and fair & equitable treatment of their labor groups. Meanwhile, puzzle palace is using the same archaic bully and scare tactics which have been proven to be ineffective and more importantly, known to cause irreparable damage to labor relations. Someone mentioned the words "toxic culture". That about sums it up. If they continue down this destructive path, I fear that Alaska Airlines will be no longer in the next few years or sooner. It reminds of a scene in a movie where the guards are whipping the slaves into submission and eventually there is a massive uprise...we all know how it ends. Sadly, it appears that Kasher and Horizon debacle didn't teach puzzle palace a single lesson. With SWA coming at us in full force and the big three fully armored, cocked, and ready to annihilate, it's just a matter of time until this dwindled operation caves and gets decimated. What's even more frustrating is that management will sail off into the sunset with their millions and we'll be left hanging at the mercy of our competition. Wall Street is right - puzzle palace has lost their mojo and they are in too deep. You can't go from managing a mom & pop mini mart to a neighborhood grocery store without vision, innovation, leadership & management skills, and balls!

Rabid Seagull

Have they announced an actual time for Monday? Probably 1659L or will they align it with Happy Hour at Duke's?

We here at JB are just starting the public displays, did you folks ever do billboards or paper ads? I'm optimistic that'll it'll work for us. Best of luck come Monday.

echelon

The general public thinks airline pilots are overpaid as it is. What, do you think the guy with the $60-80k, decent paying, well above median income, job is going to look at your billboard every day on his way to busting his ass at work and say: "You know, those guys deserve to top out at 5 times what I make instead of 4 times what I make, I'm not flying this airline again until those pilots make even more money!"

You have to consider the audience; major airline pilots are neither going to get the sympathy of the people that are going to see a billboard, nor will they deserve it. I personally think, like the rest of us in the industry, that we should be paid fairly and in line with our peers. Good luck selling that to Joe Sixpack though

Rabid Seagull

Considering you live, assuming Seattle, in an area run by Boeing, Microsoft, Amazon, Google, etc and can't buy a house for under 500K, and Sea-Tac drivers make $15 an hour, yes I probably would have tried that avenue.

or just mention your paid __% less than your other hometown airline.

Jetlife

It is such a funny and edgy running joke too, so cool...