Cancellations
06-27-2017, 02:26 PM
#51
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Horizon cancelled 40 flights yesterday, 32 of them due to lack of pilot crew. Alaska cancelled 10 flights, 8 due to lack of pilot crew. Today, Horizon is up to 17 cancellations, 8 due to lack of pilot crew and the rest all due to maintenance.
Horizon cancelled 52 flights on Saturday, 45 due to lack of pilot crew. Alaska didn't cancel any flights on Saturday.
I need to start taking daily screenshots of the "Operational Status" page on our company website. BTW, yesterday on that operational status page, this message was posted at 04:39 PDT and it's still up:
"No CA in any bases."
Yet, we get an E-Mail from CZ a couple of days ago and he talks about how things are going to get better in the next couple of months. How? Rainbows and unicorn farts?
We'll have to see how 4th of July and Seafair go.
Horizon cancelled 52 flights on Saturday, 45 due to lack of pilot crew. Alaska didn't cancel any flights on Saturday.
I need to start taking daily screenshots of the "Operational Status" page on our company website. BTW, yesterday on that operational status page, this message was posted at 04:39 PDT and it's still up:
"No CA in any bases."
Yet, we get an E-Mail from CZ a couple of days ago and he talks about how things are going to get better in the next couple of months. How? Rainbows and unicorn farts?
We'll have to see how 4th of July and Seafair go.
06-27-2017, 06:37 PM
#52
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I doubt the media has any idea. Who would clue them in?
CS cold-called me this morning offering double-time for the coming weekend, saying there was lots available if I wanted to help out. I can't remember them EVER doing this before.
We'll see if they try to draft me at the end of my trip.
CS cold-called me this morning offering double-time for the coming weekend, saying there was lots available if I wanted to help out. I can't remember them EVER doing this before.
We'll see if they try to draft me at the end of my trip.
06-27-2017, 07:07 PM
#53
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My intent is not to get the media involved, but to just keep everyone reading these Alaska threads informed. I wouldn't want the actions of any of us here to reflect negatively on the AS/VX pilot group. I also don't want to give BM, GM, TK, et al an excuse to accuse our union of doing something like this.
You know they would, as they have in the past. They have inferred that our MEC is telling our pilot group what/how to think. They think that the reduction in premium trips being picked up has something to do with what the union has been communicating to us.
Anyway, I really don't want to be the one tipping off a dork like Glenn Farley or anyone else.
You know they would, as they have in the past. They have inferred that our MEC is telling our pilot group what/how to think. They think that the reduction in premium trips being picked up has something to do with what the union has been communicating to us.
Anyway, I really don't want to be the one tipping off a dork like Glenn Farley or anyone else.
06-28-2017, 02:51 PM
#54
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I doubt the media has any idea. Who would clue them in?
CS cold-called me this morning offering double-time for the coming weekend, saying there was lots available if I wanted to help out. I can't remember them EVER doing this before.
We'll see if they try to draft me at the end of my trip.
CS cold-called me this morning offering double-time for the coming weekend, saying there was lots available if I wanted to help out. I can't remember them EVER doing this before.
We'll see if they try to draft me at the end of my trip.
06-28-2017, 09:15 PM
#55
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You are correct. That is what the contract says. That is not what the company is doing though; that's why the Teamsters sent out the explanatory e-mail stating why they are opposed to 200% pay.
I.E. = It sets a precedent that the company does whatever they want if it suits their interests. If we accept, we're complicit in blowing off our own contract.
Think about the implications of that.
Me? It's the Fourth of July weekend!!! I've got stuff I want to do more than work.
I.E. = It sets a precedent that the company does whatever they want if it suits their interests. If we accept, we're complicit in blowing off our own contract.
Think about the implications of that.
Me? It's the Fourth of July weekend!!! I've got stuff I want to do more than work.
06-30-2017, 06:54 AM
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06-30-2017, 08:15 AM
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Horizon Air cutting hundreds of flights this summer due to pilot shortage | The Seattle Times
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Same thing is going to happen at ALK. Things are bad now at "mainline", but they are going to get much worse.
07-01-2017, 01:10 AM
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Horizon Air is canceling hundreds of flights because of the "pilot shortage." It's airlines' fault.
"...American companies don’t have a shortage of people. They have a shortage of wages, benefits, and training. Companies could fix that problem, but they haven’t.
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But many businesses seem blind to the reality. They’ve become accustomed to thinking they have can have all the labor they want, with all the skills they need, without having to pay much for it or offer long-term job security or help fund the training.
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To recruit new employees, offer to train them yourselves, or to pay back the loans they incur while getting the training that will enable you to run your business, or offer to split the flight school tuition in exchange for a commitment to work for the airline for several years.
There’s a phrase people in companies use when colleagues complain of a challenging situation. “You’re a businessperson. Figure it out.” Managers and leaders get paid to figure out how to solve the problems they face. Coping with a shortage of skilled workers by shuttering a portion of your operations doesn’t seem like much of a solution."
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But many businesses seem blind to the reality. They’ve become accustomed to thinking they have can have all the labor they want, with all the skills they need, without having to pay much for it or offer long-term job security or help fund the training.
...
To recruit new employees, offer to train them yourselves, or to pay back the loans they incur while getting the training that will enable you to run your business, or offer to split the flight school tuition in exchange for a commitment to work for the airline for several years.
There’s a phrase people in companies use when colleagues complain of a challenging situation. “You’re a businessperson. Figure it out.” Managers and leaders get paid to figure out how to solve the problems they face. Coping with a shortage of skilled workers by shuttering a portion of your operations doesn’t seem like much of a solution."
07-01-2017, 04:21 PM
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Wow!! That is 20% of yalls june cancels (318).
"June will go down as our bump in the road."- Horizon CEO
I'm guessing that July will go down as what? The derailing of the train?
Its funny that your ceo says the same nonsense garbage motivational (but really demotivational) sayings such as be kind hearted and we will shine. What a joke!
"June will go down as our bump in the road."- Horizon CEO
I'm guessing that July will go down as what? The derailing of the train?
Its funny that your ceo says the same nonsense garbage motivational (but really demotivational) sayings such as be kind hearted and we will shine. What a joke!
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