pitchtrim

You can in fact make good money here if you're inclined to work. Double pay is everywhere. The down side to being short staffed is sometimes you get 200% when you'd rather be going home.

lukeh99

Which part is untrue? I’m happy to correct the record.

DarkSideMoon

You're still sacrificing days off. I'm not saying you can't make more money than at another regional, but you're going to be home less to do so. There are plenty of opportunities to pick up open time at other airlines, and even if it's only at 150% that's 150% of a much higher hourly rate and seemingly much higher credit trips. Take endeavor for example, a trip at 150% would get you $75/hr as a first year FO. A critical trip at ZW would net you $70/hr.

Not trying to bash the company or anything but the idea that you can make more money at ZW and be home more doesn't add up.

401k match is phenomenal but at the end of the day it isn't that much more than other companies. Endeavor matches up to 12%. SKW is less than ZW starting off but reaches parity after a few years. The insurance is amazing if you have a family, but honestly as a single guy if I ever came down with something where that level of insurance would kick in I'm probably losing my medical and my job anyway.

lukeh99

Yes exactly. You are going to be forced to work on a day off (up to 10 times per year). But you will get your days off one way or another. If you and your schedule are inflexible Air Wisconsin is going to be a rough ride.

BFMthisA10

Are you able to partake in said 200% pay goodness on a day which you were scheduled to work? In limited quantities, yes; picking up an extra leg in the morning if you had an afternoon show, maybe. But otherwise, 200% is a day which you were not scheduled to work, so you have now traded time off (which for those of us who like are families is time with them) for 200%. The value position is yours to make, but you can't have both.

DarkSideMoon

Then you're losing some of your potential pay, or you're working on your day in lieu at double time. I'm not just talking about junior mans either. You can't pick up critical stuff all the time and be at home.

Swagship

Or just work somewhere that doesn't junior man you, and choose when you want 200%.

DarkSideMoon

Exactly. You're either working more or at home more. I'd rather fly 85 hours of credit with 11 days off at $50 an hour than 115 with 9 days off at $35.

ZenoAir

Management trolls are trying hard to sell this place as something it once was 10 years ago. It has taken a nose dive the last few years due to a weak union and horrible mgmt team. Moral is the worst in the industry here. Come be a part of the worst UA express performer!

prex8390

I’d rather just not work 6-1 and make more at endeavor. But yeah got it. Management needs to come in here to tell 22 year olds how the 2002 reputation is alive and well.