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Old 02-18-2018, 10:32 AM
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Maybe we are Carl and Steve!

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Old 02-18-2018, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by stroopwaffle
You guys are worse than Carl and Steve on the air willy board 🤨
I was wondering how long it would go on before someone said that.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
As for the guy here since the summer, maybe half were hired by United.
5 washed out 1 had an issue he had to deal with and 2 went to another regional after OE
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Old 02-19-2018, 05:54 AM
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11 upgrades awarded for March. Perhaps that rumor they were canceling upgrades wasn't correct either.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:08 AM
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I don't mean to fuel the fire (if so, I'll claim the title of TOTD). As a person who is approaching ATP mins, I am looking at regionals. ZW is my top choice. I know a lot of people here, and I know the company really well. I have to ask, though, what makes the training department so.... meh? I'm willing to put the work in to study and learn what I need to know (flash cards for daysss!!!). I'm just concerned about washing out. Knock on wood, I don't have any check ride failures. I don't want my first one to be a 121 bust. FWIW, I'm young (less than 25), and I'm flying Caravans part 135 in a crew environment. Granted, it's a Caravan, but at least I'm not completely new to SOPs, profiles, CRM, and IFR weather. Where do people struggle? What can a person do to prepare for training in advance? Thanks for the help, and don't kill me if I've fueled the fire =P
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:27 AM
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I don't mean to fuel the fire (if so, I'll claim the title of TOTD). As a person who is approaching ATP mins, I am looking at regionals. ZW is my top choice. I know a lot of people here, and I know the company really well. I have to ask, though, what makes the training department so.... meh? I'm willing to put the work in to study and learn what I need to know (flash cards for daysss!!!). I'm just concerned about washing out. Knock on wood, I don't have any check ride failures. I don't want my first one to be a 121 bust. FWIW, I'm young (less than 25), and I'm flying Caravans part 135 in a crew environment. Granted, it's a Caravan, but at least I'm not completely new to SOPs, profiles, CRM, and IFR weather. Where do people struggle? What can a person do to prepare for training in advance? Thanks for the help, and don't kill me if I've fueled the fire =P
I think its challenging because theres a lot more information presented. A lot more memory items. When I went through it was challenging but by no means impossible. I studied every day, asked questions in class, and kept a positive attitude. Thats all it takes really, do the work. I think some people expect to be spoon fed.

I did 135 in the turbine suburban too and the experience really helped. I think so long as you come in with a willingness to learn and participate you'll do fine.
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Old 02-19-2018, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive
I don't mean to fuel the fire (if so, I'll claim the title of TOTD). As a person who is approaching ATP mins, I am looking at regionals. ZW is my top choice. I know a lot of people here, and I know the company really well. I have to ask, though, what makes the training department so.... meh? I'm willing to put the work in to study and learn what I need to know (flash cards for daysss!!!). I'm just concerned about washing out. Knock on wood, I don't have any check ride failures. I don't want my first one to be a 121 bust. FWIW, I'm young (less than 25), and I'm flying Caravans part 135 in a crew environment. Granted, it's a Caravan, but at least I'm not completely new to SOPs, profiles, CRM, and IFR weather. Where do people struggle? What can a person do to prepare for training in advance? Thanks for the help, and don't kill me if I've fueled the fire =P
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:50 AM
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Study and have a good attitude is all it really takes. It's a lot of information but by no means impossible. I talk to all my fo's who have gone through this year and there's usually 2-4 washouts out of class sizes varying from 6-15. Occasionally someone struggles on ioe and needs 7 trips. Back in the day you didn't get that many, or tons of extra sims for that matter. They aren't out to fail you.
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:06 AM
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Thanks all for the replies. If you need extra sims or extra IOE trips, does that show on PRIA? Also, is ZW AQP?
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DiveAndDrive
Thanks all for the replies. If you need extra sims or extra IOE trips, does that show on PRIA? Also, is ZW AQP?
No and no. To add to what others are saying, they're not out to fail you but they don't necessarily do a great job of setting you up to succeed. They're working hard on improving the quality of training and have already made some steps since my class went through. If you're reasonably sharp and put in the work, get info from previous classes, and work hard as a group, you'll be OK. Most failures I know of came from either ESL students or those with previous failures at other airlines.
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