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02-17-2018, 11:40 AM

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DarkSideMoon

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Originally Posted by pitchtrim

Totally inaccurate. How about post facts for once.

My class is likely going to end up at around 66%.

02-17-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by squib

It was the words directly out of the mouth of a sim instructor.

Payday hotline from 2 days ago shows 9 27XXX#'s resigning last month. There's some facts.

Edit: The January 2018 seniority list also shows 10 "new hires" and only 3 of them are still here.

27xxx guys have been here up to a year, some longer at this point. Upper 27xxx are within the new hire washout during indoc and sim time frame. 3 or 4 were fresh washouts. The one 27xxx interviewed at southwest and I'm assuming he got the job. I know of another 27xxx with an interview at United. Point is they aren't all washouts. People leave for various reasons.

02-17-2018, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pitchtrim

So there's one 27XXX number on the payday hotline that has been here close to a year. The rest are (or were) all ATW based on the seniority list, which means new hire.

No point in arguing this anymore. Have another koolaid.

02-17-2018, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by squib

If this airline thing doesn't pan out for you, you'll do well in journalism.

02-18-2018, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pitchtrim

If this airline thing doesn't pan out for you, you'll do well in journalism.

What? You can't handle the actual facts so you choose to make up your own? Go look at the seniority list dated 1/3/2018 and then compare with the seniority numbers resigning on the payday hotline.

02-18-2018, 06:33 AM

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Buddy you keep saying half a washouts. Half aren't washouts. We hire a lot of military, former 121, and corporate pilots with tons of experience. These people get hired by other companies and move on to greener pastures. People will washout but not at the doom and gloom picture you like to paint. You're probably that guy on the negotiating committe that over uses the term koolaid, tells everyone to go to endeavor, and thinks we lose 20 fo's a month to spirit.

02-18-2018, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pitchtrim

I'm not your buddy, pal. I said it one time and then backed up what I said with factual numbers. You on the other hand just keep saying it's not true and won't accept the fact that the numbers are there in writing. I'm not painting doom and gloom. People that are considered ATW based don't just magically leave for greener pastures within 2 months of walking into an airline.

I won't get near a union position so I can tell you I'm not that guy but I can tell you that I'm probably senior to you. So maybe if this airline thing doesn't pan out for ya, let me know what you decide to do.

02-18-2018, 07:19 AM

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276xxx was ATW back in January. That means 3 washouts on the resignation list. Maybe 4 if the 275xx struggled on ioe for a few months. 271xxx people have been here a full year. Carry on...

02-18-2018, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pitchtrim

276xxx was ATW back in January. That means 3 washouts on the resignation list. Maybe 4 if the 275xx struggled on ioe for a few months. 271xxx people have been here a full year. Carry on...

There's a 273XX number based in ATW on the January 2018 Seniority list, also more 275XX numbers than 276XX. I'm not making this stuff up for fun.
Also only 10 271XX here total. So that says a lot about how those people did. Or I guess maybe they all went to sprirt.

Maybe get your own facts sorted out, or just look at the actual seniority list instead of believing whatever numbers you keep making up...

02-18-2018, 07:43 AM

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Yeah I see two 273 guys, but their names don't seem to appear on the resignation list at a quick glance. Maybe they were sent home or ran out of sim space. Everyone else in Atw was 276.