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Old 04-21-2017, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by whooooooocares
My response is still the same....... HA.

What was out of context? It may have been cut up but nothing more was learned by your post. I didn't misrepresent anything. It is spewing the same rhetoric as we have heard before but all in one unexplained email.

The question that needs to be addressed is how we go about doing what is stated in the email. It seems pretty damn impossible seeing as how EVERYONE is having difficulty staffing. We are already short staffed, how are we going to manage to catch up, grow, and sustain our numbers so that we will achieve the 65 aircraft in the air for united.

Just to be clear, we currently have roughly 500 on property, we need to upgrade to Mao rain 305 captains on properry. Jr man calls and extentio s are happening again regularly(not as bad as it was before, but an increase from last month). This means we need to hire at least 100 go's to catch up. Add normal attrition, which seems to be approximately 20 or so per month. Even if we managed to get 30 per month in class that still doesn't come close to the numbers we need.

So again, HA. And thank you for clearing up any misundertanding by my actions of not posting the email in its entirety, and thereby not informing people of what is really going on here.
You've already put way too much thought into it. I wouldn't waste your energy. You're paid to fly the plane. So fly the plane. Let Frisch worry about this. That's his job.
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Old 04-21-2017, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Day4mx
You've already put way too much thought into it. I wouldn't waste your energy. You're paid to fly the plane. So fly the plane. Let Frisch worry about this. That's his job.
The company is putting pressure on themselves.

If we can upgrade new hires in 18-24 months, awesome!

If not, the company comes off as misleading.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumbletrousers
The company is putting pressure on themselves.

If we can upgrade new hires in 18-24 months, awesome!

If not, the company comes off as misleading.
I'm thinking the hiring of 250-300 Pilots this year is very misleading.
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Old 04-21-2017, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
I'm thinking the hiring of 250-300 Pilots this year is very misleading.
They just hired 50. 300 pilots this year is feasible.

How many of those make it to the line is a different story.

$5 pay raises across the board would increase hiring ten-fold though.

I can dream.
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Old 04-21-2017, 07:48 PM
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5 bucks across the board is less than current retention bonuses. They could do 10 bucks across the board and break about even on the captain side and be in the plus on the fo side. Imagine $45 first year pay.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
I'm thinking the hiring of 250-300 Pilots this year is very misleading.
I am really sad that you are here. I had hoped that you would be getting the help you need. I know it wont be easy but you have to take that first step and stop posting. If you need some help PM me. I will send you my number and we can talk. I am always willing to help a brother in need.

I want to help you stop this cycle of emotional violance and stupidity.

Good luck brother.
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Old 04-22-2017, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 4600
I am really sad that you are here. I had hoped that you would be getting the help you need. I know it wont be easy but you have to take that first step and stop posting. If you need some help PM me. I will send you my number and we can talk. I am always willing to help a brother in need.

I want to help you stop this cycle of emotional violance and stupidity.

Good luck brother.
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Old 04-22-2017, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
I'm thinking the hiring of 250-300 Pilots this year is very misleading.
Billy. Honest question. When you've been wrong so many times before...Why do you talk? How could you think your opinion has any value.
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Old 04-22-2017, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Day4mx
Billy. Honest question. When you've been wrong so many times before...Why do you talk? How could you think your opinion has any value.
Yep I was wrong. I really thought AWAC would've voting that TA in.
You guys surprised me there!
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Old 04-22-2017, 05:40 AM
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Billy I wish you woukd address your issues. I hope you have self grounded yourself. Nobody in your psychological condition should be flying.
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