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03-12-2017, 05:41 AM
#5371
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The company probably surprised AA with the UA announcement and still needs to come up with a draw down plan for our AA flying. DCA will probably be the first to go this summer.
We will probably see the closure of PHL/DCA/ORF as crew bases once the transition starts, ORF will be a RON MX base only as well as MKE and CAE. The UA flying out of our AA bases is not enough to support crew bases, people who live in PHL/ORF should expect to learn how to commute. If you're butthurt about suddenly having to commute, ask the DEN/ORD guys what it was like back in 2006.
We will probably see the closure of PHL/DCA/ORF as crew bases once the transition starts, ORF will be a RON MX base only as well as MKE and CAE. The UA flying out of our AA bases is not enough to support crew bases, people who live in PHL/ORF should expect to learn how to commute. If you're butthurt about suddenly having to commute, ask the DEN/ORD guys what it was like back in 2006.
03-12-2017, 06:26 AM
#5372
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
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The only people that knew UA was talking to ZW, were UA and ZW. So yea, it probably came as a surprise to AA that we are moving our whole fleet over to UA within a year. Flying for UA could come earlier than 02/2018, and I don't think AA was prepared for that.
AA could have been waiting for ZW to bid even cheaper flying to stay afloat after 02/2018. Yes, I'm no dummy that we have been slowly replaced by the WO's at our domiciles. But, I'm also sure that AA still wanted some lift out of us, albeit at a much lower rate than we were at, even with the extension we were on.
My post was more about the wild speculation of what our rad new domiciles will be... ASE! DEN! EWR! LAX! SFO! whatever!
As far as we have been told, its gonna be ORD and IAD so start making plans if you live near PHL, ORF or north of DCA.
Commute to live, live to commute.
AA could have been waiting for ZW to bid even cheaper flying to stay afloat after 02/2018. Yes, I'm no dummy that we have been slowly replaced by the WO's at our domiciles. But, I'm also sure that AA still wanted some lift out of us, albeit at a much lower rate than we were at, even with the extension we were on.
My post was more about the wild speculation of what our rad new domiciles will be... ASE! DEN! EWR! LAX! SFO! whatever!
As far as we have been told, its gonna be ORD and IAD so start making plans if you live near PHL, ORF or north of DCA.
Commute to live, live to commute.
03-12-2017, 07:09 AM
#5373
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
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The only people that knew UA was talking to ZW, were UA and ZW. So yea, it probably came as a surprise to AA that we are moving our whole fleet over to UA within a year. Flying for UA could come earlier than 02/2018, and I don't think AA was prepared for that.
AA could have been waiting for ZW to bid even cheaper flying to stay afloat after 02/2018. Yes, I'm no dummy that we have been slowly replaced by the WO's at our domiciles. But, I'm also sure that AA still wanted some lift out of us, albeit at a much lower rate than we were at, even with the extension we were on.
My post was more about the wild speculation of what our rad new domiciles will be... ASE! DEN! EWR! LAX! SFO! whatever!
As far as we have been told, its gonna be ORD and IAD so start making plans if you live near PHL, ORF or north of DCA.
Commute to live, live to commute.
AA could have been waiting for ZW to bid even cheaper flying to stay afloat after 02/2018. Yes, I'm no dummy that we have been slowly replaced by the WO's at our domiciles. But, I'm also sure that AA still wanted some lift out of us, albeit at a much lower rate than we were at, even with the extension we were on.
My post was more about the wild speculation of what our rad new domiciles will be... ASE! DEN! EWR! LAX! SFO! whatever!
As far as we have been told, its gonna be ORD and IAD so start making plans if you live near PHL, ORF or north of DCA.
Commute to live, live to commute.
03-12-2017, 07:11 AM
#5374
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The only people that knew UA was talking to ZW, were UA and ZW. So yea, it probably came as a surprise to AA that we are moving our whole fleet over to UA within a year. Flying for UA could come earlier than 02/2018, and I don't think AA was prepared for that.
AA could have been waiting for ZW to bid even cheaper flying to stay afloat after 02/2018.
AA could have been waiting for ZW to bid even cheaper flying to stay afloat after 02/2018.
03-12-2017, 11:31 AM
#5375
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Well, whether they (AA) knew or not, it's worth noting that the bulk of the planes I saw in the world today were Trans States and not PSA. So maybe things aren't going quite as planned for ol AAG. (one can hope anyway)
03-12-2017, 11:37 AM
#5376
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PSA's DCA base is a 700 base, not a 200. TransStates is doing the 50 seat flying out of DCA.
03-12-2017, 04:32 PM
#5378
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Kirby or Parker said a year ago that AWAC had executed their extension but after that would be replaced in a Crews News. An FA asked about up gauging the ORF-DCA flights and they said when AWAC was gone it would still be a 50 seater.
Just remember how AWAC ended up with US Airways. United canceled their contract and forced them out in a very expedited manner. That is why there are so many guys hired in the 2004-2006 time period and not many from before. They all got tired of commuting and went elsewhere. The PHL crewroom (hanger) was horrible those first couple months, no crashpads and people were sleeping everywhere.
Just remember how AWAC ended up with US Airways. United canceled their contract and forced them out in a very expedited manner. That is why there are so many guys hired in the 2004-2006 time period and not many from before. They all got tired of commuting and went elsewhere. The PHL crewroom (hanger) was horrible those first couple months, no crashpads and people were sleeping everywhere.
03-12-2017, 04:49 PM
#5379
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Originally Posted by Name User
They all got tired of commuting and went elsewhere. The PHL crewroom (hanger) was horrible those first couple months, no crashpads and people were sleeping everywhere.
03-14-2017, 04:31 AM
#5380
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