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Old 03-02-2017, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
Keep it simple. If you worked at the same company for 15-20 years making 100 hours per month, and suddenly your hours got cut to 75 per month, it is unreasonable to tell someone they were living outside of their means when they had a reasonable expectation to be able to make 85-100 hours per month... If squib and company want to work as little as possible because they have no kids, mortgage, and probably live with their parents, that is certainly their choice.
It's a little ironic that the same guy telling others they don't know how to manage their money is on the internet *****ing because he can't work overtime.
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumbletrousers
So I did some digging in the United operations and scope clause and found that they are already maxed out on their 70/76 seat regional operation at 255 aircraft from Skywest, GoJet, Mesa, and Republic. Meanwhile their 50 seat scope clause maxes out at 90% of their narrow-body mainline fleet at 508 (90% of their total of 565 as of today). Totaling up their 50 seat operation pre-Willy is 279, 344 after. Which leaves 164 additional 50 seaters to max out their scope clause if no other companies roll back their operations.

As much as people say the 50 seat market is dying, looking at those numbers it seems the only way United can expand their regional operation is by adding 50 seaters. From what I've gathered looking at all the press releases from United it looks as though they're trying to cut back on spending yet increase their capacity and flying. The best way to do that would be to outsource your flying for cheaper to the regionals.

And since you're scoped out on the 70/76 seaters, why not run more 50 seaters with greater frequency which gives customers better flexibility to their schedules?

According to the email it looks as though our operation for American is over barring some last minute desperation from Parker. If that's the case, we would be the largest sole regional operator at United, the other being CommutAir. So if United really wants to put the hurt on Delta, American and Alaska, why not build up your two operators which solely fly for you?

Perhaps it's also coincidence but CommutAir is majority owned by Champlain Enterprises LLC. Meanwhile we just filed to change from a Corporation to an LLC. Maybe this was done to prepare for a merger or acquisition to become wholly owns the same way American did with PSA and Piedmont? Or maybe it was because it was for limited liability and tax loopholes, all speculation but interesting nevertheless.

I don't know any more than anyone here but personally I think we're in a good place here and we have a good future, with a great chance to expand and grow our company and fleet if staffing allows.Everyone here needs to lighten the **** up.
Once again United will not own any regional, the AFA contract wont allow that.."No flying by Subsidiaries" prohibits the company from operating flying by subsidiaries who are not on the UA AFA seniority.. The 2016 AFA TA strengthens scope for all UA f/as..
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by unity2010
Once again United will not own any regional, the AFA contract wont allow that.."No flying by Subsidiaries" prohibits the company from operating flying by subsidiaries who are not on the UA AFA seniority.. The 2016 AFA TA strengthens scope for all UA f/as..
They can own anyone they want, AS LONG AS, UA FA's are the ones doing the flights.
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by No Lies
They can own anyone they want, AS LONG AS, UA FA's are the ones doing the flights.
FAs only? So can use cheap regional
Pilots if put in mainline FAs?
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MidLife
FAs only? So can use cheap regional
Pilots if put in mainline FAs?
As far as I can tell, the only thing stopping UA is the contract for the FA's stating they must be the ones working all UA majority owned flights. Not sure how the FAA would go with the idea of UA FA's and some other carrier plane and pilots.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by squib
Those people should learn to live within their means. Some people survive off flipping burgers. That argument is completely invalid. Learn how to manage your money.
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It's a little ironic that the same guy telling others they don't know how to manage their money is on the internet *****ing because he can't work overtime.
I think you're a little confused. Again..

I said I can understand why people are upset that they are losing hours. You are the one basically telling our captains to f*ck off and learn to live off min guarantee...
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by squib
Those people should learn to live within their means. Some people survive off flipping burgers. That argument is completely invalid. Learn how to manage your money.
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I agree. The FO lines will have higher credit.
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I think you may be to far removed from others situations. You have no idea what kind of financial position someone is in due to circumstances you have no idea about. To blanketly paint your perception of how to live someone else's life is pretty narrow minded.


And to say pick up open time shows truly how far you are removed from living on resv. Some may not have the opportunity to pick up open time due to schedules and their home life.
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Old 03-02-2017, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by whooooooocares
I think you may be to far removed from others situations. You have no idea what kind of financial position someone is in due to circumstances you have no idea about. To blanketly paint your perception of how to live someone else's life is pretty narrow minded.


And to say pick up open time shows truly how far you are removed from living on resv. Some may not have the opportunity to pick up open time due to schedules and their home life.
Reserves are carrying this place right now. Line-holders complaining about not being able to pick up open time has me tuning up my tiny violin. Bid Reserve or hold your tongue. You'll fly plenty, and then some.
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Old 03-02-2017, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by WhistlePig
Reserves are carrying this place right now. Line-holders complaining about not being able to pick up open time has me tuning up my tiny violin. Bid Reserve or hold your tongue. You'll fly plenty, and then some.
Captain reserves? How are they "carrying this place" if the reserves and line holders both only get 75 hours each month? Reserves are meant to be on reserve, they are not meant carry the place...

There should be no junior man calls because they decided to use up the reserves to save money, then got screwed up by unforeseen events. That's what the reserves are for....
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Old 03-02-2017, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
Captain reserves? How are they "carrying this place" if the reserves and line holders both only get 75 hours each month? Reserves are meant to be on reserve, they are not meant carry the place...

There should be no junior man calls because they decided to use up the reserves to save money, then got screwed up by unforeseen events. That's what the reserves are for....
There's the way things should be, and there's the way things are. And things are the way they are because of our ****e contract. That's my legal opinion, bona fide. I'd love to negotiate the next one for the group but I plan to be moved on, or possibly retired, by then.
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